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Why is Singapore no longer "cool"?

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Re: Why is Singapore no longer "cool"?

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Post by nurumaik »

snowpid wrote: post #5
ifwinterco wrote: post #4

I think Singapore's immigration policy is still interesting and relevant to western countries, but it's true it's also kind of similar to the UAE. Essentially it's (relatively) easy to get work visas for areas where there's a genuine shortage but difficult to get permanent residency and almost impossible to get citizenship. That's still a very different policy to what most western countries have right now. The UAE ha…

The UAE still murders gay men just for beeing gay. Besides the lack of morality this affects 7 % of all men worldwide. Im not sure if UAE really be an exciting place and thus would someone migrate to it if you care about culture and stuff.

Any real recent examples of this, specifically in Abu Dhabi or Dubai?

Re: Why is Singapore no longer "cool"?

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Post by lisper »

axus wrote: post #22
arduanika wrote: post #16

Cool? Out of all the major world commercial hubs, wasn't it always the hottest and muggiest?

Ironically, UAE and Qatar have nicer weather in the winter than Singapore.

Singapore is on the equator, so winter is not even a well-defined concept there.

Re: Why is Singapore no longer "cool"?

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Post by Supermancho »

yanhangyhy wrote: post #2

we call it the rich version of north korean

Who is "we"?

While the ugliness of Taiwanese justice (or lack thereof) makes it unappealing to me, from the other issues mentioned in these threads and the recent 3 year sentence for killing a little girl - https://jakartaglobe.id/news/sixyearold-indonesian-girl-kill..., I'm not sure it rises to the most troubling qualities of NK. eg The population doesn't starve en masse, no familial dynasty, and there is no alternate-fictional history.

Re: Why is Singapore no longer "cool"?

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Post by funkyfiddler369 »

budududuroiu wrote: post #14

TIL detention without trial is a thing in Singapore [^1], ministers love to brag about increasing the severity of detention without trial [^2], and that the longest someone was held in detention without trial in Singapore was 23+9 years [^3]. That person was never charged. [^1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Law_(Temporary_Provis... [^2]: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/my-views-on-... [^3] h…

after reading the wiki article I'm quite certain he was saved and kept alive to continue his work. someone was out for his head but didn't have enough reach.

but that's just an assumption based on stories in the good old Soviet Union.

Re: Why is Singapore no longer "cool"?

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Post by Supermancho »

nurumaik wrote: post #31
snowpid wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UAE still murders gay men just for beeing gay. Besides the lack of morality this affects 7 % of all men worldwide. Im not sure if UAE really be an exciting place and thus would someone migrate to it if you care about culture and stuff.

Any real recent examples of this, specifically in Abu Dhabi or Dubai?

There aren't any examples for Dubai (afaik), on record. In the UAE, 2015 was the last execution for homosexuality. There was a deportation in 2017 for maybe cross dressing?

Either way, I would consider the UAE an exceptionally unsafe place to visit.

Re: Why is Singapore no longer "cool"?

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Post by yanhangyhy »

Supermancho wrote: post #33
yanhangyhy wrote: post #2

we call it the rich version of north korean

Who is "we"? While the ugliness of Taiwanese justice (or lack thereof) makes it unappealing to me, from the other issues mentioned in these threads and the recent 3 year sentence for killing a little girl - https://jakartaglobe.id/news/sixyearold-indonesian-girl-kill... , I'm not sure it rises to the most troubling qualities of NK. eg The population doesn't starve en masse, no familial dynasty, and there is no altern…

> Who is "we"?

many chinese people, it's kind of joke but still..also true on many levels.

> I'm not sure it rises to the most troubling qualities of NK

its run by a dictator from the begining, with many strange laws to tell the people not to do this and not to do that. the major difference is that Singapore is pro-west (and pretend to be neutral) so no trash talk from the western media and its portrayed as a 'democracy'

Re: Why is Singapore no longer "cool"?

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Post by breppp »

snowpid wrote: post #5
ifwinterco wrote: post #4

I think Singapore's immigration policy is still interesting and relevant to western countries, but it's true it's also kind of similar to the UAE. Essentially it's (relatively) easy to get work visas for areas where there's a genuine shortage but difficult to get permanent residency and almost impossible to get citizenship. That's still a very different policy to what most western countries have right now. The UAE ha…

The UAE still murders gay men just for beeing gay. Besides the lack of morality this affects 7 % of all men worldwide. Im not sure if UAE really be an exciting place and thus would someone migrate to it if you care about culture and stuff.

All gulf states have abysmal gay rights, but are you sure they are executing gay men?

Re: Why is Singapore no longer "cool"?

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Post by FatherOfCurses »

46493168 wrote: post #26
budududuroiu wrote: post #14

TIL detention without trial is a thing in Singapore [^1], ministers love to brag about increasing the severity of detention without trial [^2], and that the longest someone was held in detention without trial in Singapore was 23+9 years [^3]. That person was never charged. [^1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Law_(Temporary_Provis... [^2]: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/my-views-on-... [^3] h…

There’s a reason William Gibson called it “Disneyland with the Death Penalty” https://www.wired.com/1993/04/gibson-2/

Yes and whenever I see anyone gushing about Singapore that's the first place my mind goes.

You can keep your 1000 different Instagrammable spots, I'd rather go some place that is a little more into democracy and reasonable policing.

Re: Why is Singapore no longer "cool"?

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Post by notahacker »

arduanika wrote: post #16

Cool? Out of all the major world commercial hubs, wasn't it always the hottest and muggiest?

Everywhere you need to be is air conditioned, which is pretty cool I guess...

(Humidity's high but peak temperatures aren't particularly extreme; it's just never cold)

Re: Why is Singapore no longer "cool"?

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Post by breppp »

Supermancho wrote: post #35
nurumaik wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any real recent examples of this, specifically in Abu Dhabi or Dubai?

There aren't any examples for Dubai (afaik), on record. In the UAE, 2015 was the last execution for homosexuality. There was a deportation in 2017 for maybe cross dressing? Either way, I would consider the UAE an exceptionally unsafe place to visit.

Any source for the 2015 case? All I found was executions of pedophile rapists
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