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Link: https://github.com/jnz/studio98
Can't fix the Electron sluggishness compared to VS6, but at least the syntax highlighting feels a bit like home.
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With NT4, I'm pretty sure both HALs were on the CD-ROM (unless you had an exotic system with a custom HAL, which came with its own install media). Keep in mind your use case is approximately nobody, you either had a SMP system or you didn't.
It was really not that rare to want to move a disk from one system to another. Except that there was an obnoxiously high chance that Windows would refuse to boot.
VC++ 6 was made by the same company that made VS Code.
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there is something to be said about old windows installation CDs being essentially modern-day equivalents of immutable docker layers - i don't think one could say that about modern windows, but then i'm not super clued in into ms stuff.
You'd reinstall every year or two to clean out the disused DLLs etc, but it was mostly fine.
Of course it wasn't exposed to quite the same hostile environment it is today.
I used Visual C in the early 90s and it was a dream compared to vi and whatever C compiler the various unices I was using had.
Hence why I eventually found refuge in XEmacs, and DDD, until IDEs like KDevelop and Sun Forte came to be.
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Yes, but the gains may be lost in the logistics of shipping the build binary back to the PC for actual execution. An incremental build of C (not C++) code is pretty fast, and was pretty fast back then too. In q1source.zip this article links to is only 198k lines spread across 384 files. The largest file is 3391 lines. Though the linked q1source.zip is QW and WinQuake, so not exactly the DJGPP build. (quote the README…
"Shipping" wouldn't be a problem, they could just run it from a network drive. Their PCs were networked, they needed to test deathmatches after all ;) And the compilation speed difference wouldn't be small. The HP workstations they were using were "entry level" systems with (at max spec) a 100MHz CPU. Their Alpha server had four CPUs running at probably 275MHz. I know which system I would choose for compiles.
This is exactly the shipping I'm talking about. The gains would be so miniscule (because, again, and incremental compile was never actually slow even on the PC) and the network overhead adds up. Especially back then.
> just run it from a network drive.
It still needs to be transferred to run.
> I know which system I would choose for compiles.
All else equal, perhaps. But were you actually a developer in the 90s?
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Yes, but the gains may be lost in the logistics of shipping the build binary back to the PC for actual execution. An incremental build of C (not C++) code is pretty fast, and was pretty fast back then too. In q1source.zip this article links to is only 198k lines spread across 384 files. The largest file is 3391 lines. Though the linked q1source.zip is QW and WinQuake, so not exactly the DJGPP build. (quote the README…
> I mean correct me if you have actual data to prove me wrong, but my memory at the time is that build times were really not a problem. I never had cause to build quake, but my Linux kernel builds took something like 3-4 hours on an i486. It was a bit better on the dual socket pentium I had at work, but it was still painfully slow. I specifically remember setting up gcc cross toolchains to build Linux binaries on our…
From cold, or from modified config.h, sure. But also keep in mind that the Pentium came out in 1993.
> The first batches of Quake executables, quake.exe and vquake.exe were programmed on HP 712-60 running NeXT and cross-compiled with DJGPP running on a DEC Alpha server 2100A. Is that accurate? I thought DJGPP only ran on and for PC compatible x86. ID had Alpha for things like running qbps and light and vis (these took for--ever to run, so the alpha SMP was really useful), but for building the actual DOS binaries, su…
I asked John Carmack and he told me they did. There is also an interview of Dave Tayor explicitly mentioning compiling Quake on the Alpha in 20s (source: https://www.gamers.org/dhs/usavisit/dallas.html#:~:text=comp... I don't think he meant running qbsp or vis or light.
This is when they (or at least Carmack) was doing development on Next? So were those the DOS builds?