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Daily agentic user here, and to me the problem here is the very notion of "vibe coding". If you're even thinking in those terms - this idea that never looking at the code has become a goal unto itself - then IMO you're doing LLM-assisted development wrong. This is very much a hot take, but I believe that Claude Code and its yolo peers are an expensive party trick that gives people who aren't deep into this stuff an a…
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That’s not what Claude and Codex put there when you ask them to init it. Also, the global view is most definitely bigger than their tiny, loremipsum-on-steroids, context so what do you do then?
You know you can put anything there, not just what they init, right? And you can reference other doc files. I should probably stop commenting on AI posts because when I try to help others get the most out of agents I usually just get down voted like now. People want to hate on AI, not learn how to use it.
I think AI is just a massive force multiplier. If your codebase has bad foundation and going in the wrong direction with lots of hacks, it will just write code which mirrors the existing style... And you get exactly was OP is suggesting. If however, your code foundations are good and highly consistent and never allow hacks, then the AI will maintain that clean style and it becomes shockingly good; in this case, the p…
Some time back, my manager at the time, who shall remain nameless told the group that having AI is like having 10 people work for you ( he actually had a slightly smaller number, but it was said almost word for word like in the article ) with the expectation being set as: 'you should now be able to do 10x as much'. Needless to say, he was wrong and gently corrected over the course of time. In his defense, his use cas…
> his use cases for LLMs at the time were summarizing emails in his email client Sounds just like my manager. Though he never has made a proclamation that this meant developers should be 10x as productive or anything along those lines. On the contrary, when I made a joke about LLMs being able to replace managers before they get anywhere near replacing developers, he nearly hyperventilated. Not because he didn't belie…
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Then you are boned unless it was architected well. LLMs tend to stack a lot of complexity at local scopes, especially if the neighboring pages are also built poorly. E.g pumping out a ton of logic to convert one data structure to another. Like a poorly structured form with random form control names that don’t match to the DTO. Or single properties for each form control which are then individually plugged into the req…
> Then you are boned Must be my lucky day! Too bad my dream of being that while the bots are taking care of the coding is still sort of fiction. I love a future when this is possible but what we have today is more of a proof of concept. A transformative leap is required for this technology before it can be as useful as advertised.
In my mind it’s not too much different than cheap contractor code that I already have to deal with on a regular basis…
I think AI is just a massive force multiplier. If your codebase has bad foundation and going in the wrong direction with lots of hacks, it will just write code which mirrors the existing style... And you get exactly was OP is suggesting. If however, your code foundations are good and highly consistent and never allow hacks, then the AI will maintain that clean style and it becomes shockingly good; in this case, the p…
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The wrinkle is that the AI doesn't have a truly global view, and so it slowly degrades even good structure, especially if run without human feedback and review. But you're right that good structure really helps.
AGENTS.md is for that global view.
Some time back, my manager at the time, who shall remain nameless told the group that having AI is like having 10 people work for you ( he actually had a slightly smaller number, but it was said almost word for word like in the article ) with the expectation being set as: 'you should now be able to do 10x as much'. Needless to say, he was wrong and gently corrected over the course of time. In his defense, his use cas…
> his use cases for LLMs at the time were summarizing emails in his email client Sounds just like my manager. Though he never has made a proclamation that this meant developers should be 10x as productive or anything along those lines. On the contrary, when I made a joke about LLMs being able to replace managers before they get anywhere near replacing developers, he nearly hyperventilated. Not because he didn't belie…
This is flat out wrong and shows your lack of respect and understanding for other jobs.
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What we call AI at the heart of coding agents, is the averaged “echo” of what people have published on the web that has (often illegitimately) ended up in training data. Yes it probably can spit out some trivial snippets but nothing near what’s needed for genuine software engineering. Also, now that StackOverflow is no longer a thing, good luck meaningfully improving those code agents.