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Re: Billing can be bypassed using a combo of subagents with an agent definition

#22

Is it just me or is Microsoft really phoning it in recently?

Recently? They've been shipping absolute trash for 15 years, and still haven't reached the bottom apparently.

.NET is actually, unironically good. But yes, this is one of few exceptions, unfortunately.

Re: Billing can be bypassed using a combo of subagents with an agent definition

#23
Even without hacks, Copilot is still a cheap way to use Claude models:

- $10/month

- Copilot CLI for Claude Code type CLI, VS Code for GUI

- 300 requests (prompts) on Sonnet 4.5, 100 on Opus 4.6 (3x)

- One prompt only ever consumes one request, regardless of tokens used

- Agents auto plan tasks and create PRs

- "New Agent" in VS Code runs agent locally

- "New Cloud Agent" runs agent in the cloud (https://github.com/copilot/agents)

- Additional requests cost $0.04 each

Re: Billing can be bypassed using a combo of subagents with an agent definition

#24
post #6

The laat comment is a person pretending to be a maintainer of Microsoft. I have a gut feeling that these kind of people will only increase, and we'll have vibe engineers scouring popular repositories to ""contribute"" (note that the suggested fix is vague). I completely understand why some projects are in whitelist-contributors-only mode. It's becoming a mess.

No where in the comment do they assert they are work for Microsoft. This is a peer-review.

Let's just say they are pretending to be helpful, how about that?

> "Peer review"

no unless your "peers" are bots who regurgitate LLM slop.

Re: Billing can be bypassed using a combo of subagents with an agent definition

#25
post #6

The laat comment is a person pretending to be a maintainer of Microsoft. I have a gut feeling that these kind of people will only increase, and we'll have vibe engineers scouring popular repositories to ""contribute"" (note that the suggested fix is vague). I completely understand why some projects are in whitelist-contributors-only mode. It's becoming a mess.

On the other hand ... I recently had to deal with official Microsoft Support for an Azure service degradation / silent failure.

Their email responses were broadly all like this -- fully drafted by GPT. The only thing i liked about that whole exchange was that GPT was readily willing to concede that all the details and observations I included point to a service degradation and failure on Microsoft side. A purely human mind would not have so readily conceded the point without some hedging or dilly-dallying or keeping some options open to avoid accepting blame.

Re: Billing can be bypassed using a combo of subagents with an agent definition

#26
post #6

The laat comment is a person pretending to be a maintainer of Microsoft. I have a gut feeling that these kind of people will only increase, and we'll have vibe engineers scouring popular repositories to ""contribute"" (note that the suggested fix is vague). I completely understand why some projects are in whitelist-contributors-only mode. It's becoming a mess.

No where in the comment do they assert they are work for Microsoft. This is a peer-review.

It's not a peer review it's just AI slop. I do agree they don't seem to be intentionally posing as an MS employee.

Re: Billing can be bypassed using a combo of subagents with an agent definition

#27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I completely understand why some projects are in whitelist-contributors-only mode. It's becoming a mess. That repo alone has 1.1k open pull requests, madness.

> That repo alone has 1.1k open pull requests, madness. The UI can't even be bothered to show the number of open issues, 5K+ :) Then they "fix it" by making issues auto-close after 1 week of inactivity, meanwhile PRs submitted 10 years ago remains open.

> issues auto-close after 1 week of inactivity, meanwhile PRs submitted 10 years ago remains open.

It's definitely a mess, but based on the massive decline in signal vs noise of public comments and issues on open source recently, that's not a bad heuristic for filtering quality.

Re: Billing can be bypassed using a combo of subagents with an agent definition

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post #16
post #10

Nothing compared to pirated CDs with Office and Windows, 20 yrs back.

They don't care, they would rather let you use pirated MS software than move to Linux. There is a repo on GH with powershell scripts for activating windows/office and they let it sit there. Just checked, repo has 165K stars. This could be the same, they know devs mostly prefer to use cursor and/or claude than copilot.

What's the direct cost to Microsoft of someone pirating an OS vs. making requests to a hosted LLM?

Re: Billing can be bypassed using a combo of subagents with an agent definition

#29
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No where in the comment do they assert they are work for Microsoft. This is a peer-review.

Let's just say they are pretending to be helpful, how about that? > "Peer review" no unless your "peers" are bots who regurgitate LLM slop.

You think they lied about reproducing the issue? It’s useful to know if a bug can be reproduced.

Re: Billing can be bypassed using a combo of subagents with an agent definition

#30

Why would you report this?! A second time. When they already closed your first issue. Just enjoy the free ride.

Some part of me says, let their vibing have a cost, since clearly "overall product quality going to shit" hasn't had a visible effect on their trajectory
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