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Re: iPad mini

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Post by bbbbbbbbb »

eropple wrote: post #337
bbbbbbbbb wrote: post #332

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The main reason I bought an iPad was... the musical apps (and the fact you can read ebooks with the Kindle app). The iPad is a revolution in the musical scene. Musical apps is something you won't get in the Android Eco-system basically because the OS itself sucks at it(although 4.1 seems to have improved a bit on that side). With this in mind(musical apps), I will always favor the iPad (mini) over an Android tablet.

That's interesting. I found them largely useless, Lemur and TouchOSC aside (Android has TouchOSC support, though I do keep the iPad around if I want to use Lemur--haven't for a while though), but it's cool to see that they're useful for somebody.

I like Auria, Amplitube,BeatMaker2,iMS20,iSequence,DM1,Animoog,Soundprism and the likes very much. with audiobus on its way, it is going to get even more interesting.

Been using them for lives & recording demos (iPad+MiC+Jam). the iPad never crashes(not like Android that freezes a lot).

Obviously you do no get a full pc stack and the quality is still not there so I resort to the Mac for more functionality/sound treatment but you can enjoy quite very much if you can't afford the thousands that cost Native Instruments softs or real hardware synths/drum machines.

Re: iPad mini

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Post by bruceboughton »

untog wrote: post #122
jpxxx wrote: post #110

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Google should be delighted. I've yet to find a "normal" who is aware that anyone else sells "iPads". And Amazon doesn't count, they sell "Kindles". No amount of competitive marketing seems to have brought the two product families into competition beyond "well I heard the iPad has books too but my friend loves her Kindle".

I'm yet to find a "normal" that watches Apple Keynotes, though.

No but the iPad Mini was above-the-fold breaking news on the BBC news website before the keynote was even over.

Re: iPad mini

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Post by podperson »

sswezey wrote: post #277
podperson wrote: post #79

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It's the same size an a Kindle Fire / Nexus 7, but lighter, with better battery life, a bigger display, better battery life, and a faster processor. Oh, and it's an iOS device so you can actually use it for something other than bragging about how cheap it was and propping up wobbly tables.

You should have some citations there: (I'm assuming Kindle Fire HD) * Lighter - that is correct, it is ~75g lighter than KF & N7 * Better battery life - citing the tech specs, it gets 10h browsing, surfing etc. the same as N7 and 1h less than KF's (these are all advertised) * Bigger display - Yes it is bigger in inches, but it is lower resolution than both KF and N7 - meaning pictures are going to look worst. And the…

I've never gotten anything close to 10h battery life out of my Nexus 7.

And I left out the cameras. The iPad Mini has (it appears) an actually good camera, whereas the Kindle Fire has none and the Nexus 7 (I think) only has a (poor) front camera -- never figured out how to use it if it's there.

Re: iPad mini

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Post by dagw »

Tyrannosaurs wrote: post #257
mark_l_watson wrote: post #241

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You triggered something: I have been wondering why Apple does not have iPads support multiple user accounts that are easy to switch between? With iCloud, it would seem reasonable for a family to have a min, a standard iPad, and perhaps a future "iPad whopper" (with perhaps a 14 inch screen). They could be left laying around the house and anyone could just pick up the appropriate device as-needed. I can answer my own…

Another option: it's a niche issue. Not saying they won't look at it in the future but We have a family iPad and its no problem. My wife can see my email but she's my wife so I honestly don't care. Our neighbours have two between six of them and similarly have no issues. People with a tech background worry about this more than most people but they also tend to be the sort of people who have their own devices. For nor…

I'm not mainly 'worried' about my girlfriend, but my daughter. Having a locked down account where internet is permanently off , only certain programs are shown, and where she can't delete icons would be great.

Re: iPad mini

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Post by dagw »

eropple wrote: post #323
taligent wrote: post #299

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Because the tablet iOS ecosystem is far, far, far better than Androids. There are plenty of great iPad specific apps.

I've heard this a lot, but I honestly can't think of anything I use on my iPad that isn't built-in. I say more or less the same thing about my Nexus 7, aside from stuff like game emulators which are verboten on iOS (and, truthfully, I don't use them that often). Care to share?

Music apps and children's apps are two big areas where Android is lagging far behind iOS.

Re: iPad mini

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Post by Xion »

krrrh wrote: post #248
niels_olson wrote: post #242

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> not adding a retina display allowed the iPad mini to be less than half the weight do the pixels weigh more? Seriously, would faster graphics weigh more? Or are you saying juicing the graphics would eat more battery, and therefore, it would weight more?

Yes. The iPad 3 was significantly thicker and heavier than the iPad 2. It takes a larger battery to drive 4 times the pixels and maintain a 10 hour battery life.

It is 0.6mm thicker and 50g heavier. That's a 6% and 7% increase, respectively. I wouldn't really call it 'significant'.

Re: iPad mini

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Post by zecg »

taligent wrote: post #299
StavrosK wrote: post #265

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If you were in the market for a small tablet, why would you not get a Nexus 7?

Because the tablet iOS ecosystem is far, far, far better than Androids. There are plenty of great iPad specific apps.

Strongly disagree, iOS is horribly limiting. I like having OSMAnd navigation with frequently updated offline vector maps and I like having access to hardware capabilities for stuff like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914699

Also (IMO) latest versions of Android wipe the floor with iOS when it comes to user experience and options. And N7 is quad core with Tegra, superb build quality and larger resolution for less money.

Re: iPad mini

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Post by MatthewPhillips »

mikeash wrote: post #228
MatthewPhillips wrote: post #184

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A. A person thinks a product is underwhelming. B. That same product sells very well. A and B do not contradict. B does not invalidate A.

That depends on context. A often comes with an implied, "underwhelming for everybody and thus it won't sell well."

No, it doesn't. You are inserting that implication so that you can poison-the-well on like-opinions later.

Re: iPad mini

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Post by smackfu »

Samuel_Michon wrote: post #244
spot wrote: post #195

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same resolution, scaled down by 20%. so if you designed a button to be as small as a finger for the ipad, it's now too small.

The tap targets on a 10" iPad are quite big, there was some room to shrink the screen without it hurting usability. Besides, the 7.9" screen size wasn't randomly picked: The tap targets on an iPad mini are exactly the same size as they are on an iPhone or iPod touch (which also confirms that Apple is using the same equipment to produce the iPad mini screen panels as they used for the iPhone 3GS — they're just cutting…

We'll see how many apps actually work well though, and which ones have to be tweaked. Not every developer follows the standards.

It's not like Apple even does either. The recent iOS 6 apps store on iPhone is a good example of something where they made the tap targets too small to expand app updates and it was very frustrating. They finally fixed that just recently so that the target was much larger.

Re: iPad mini

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Post by betterth »

fpgeek wrote: post #331
Adirael wrote: post #252

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Compare a MBP with a similarly built laptop. Dont pick up a plastic built or one with a shitty trackpad. Built quality IS hardware too. Same for iMacs. Don't compare an iMac with a clone in a tower. Compare it to a similar form factor: all in one, quiet, low power consumption.

Try shopping a MacBook Pro against an equivalently configured T-series ThinkPad from Lenovo. The price difference is usually huge (more than 30% cheaper for the entry-level 15-inch configuration I tried) and gets even worse if you spend a few minutes to Google up an applicable Lenovo coupon.

LOL as someone using a Lenovo, right now, let me just say this:

If you buy it over an Apple, you get what you deserve. The quality from Lenovo has been declining since they bought the brand from IBM. Thinkpad's are a SHADOW of their former glory, sadly.

Here's something people don't factor in when buying laptops: Your expensive MacBook Pro is having issues? Well, visit an Apple store and get it fixed!

Your expensive Lenovo is having issues? Well... mail it back...

But you still didn't make the comparison, you told other people to do it. Until you make the comparison, I'm still betting that the Lenovo cuts corners in a variety of ways to make the product cheaper, and as a consumer you have to accept those cost-cutting trade offs.

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