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Re: The Waymo World Model

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I don't know what he's on about. Here's a better list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tesla_Autopilot_crashe...

Autopilot is the shitty lane assist. FSD is the SOTA neural net. Your link agrees with me: > two that NHTSA's Office of Defect Investigations determined as happening during the engagement of Full Self-Driving (FSD) after 2022.

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Those are rookie numbers. The US has 400 million guns. https://www.theglobalstatistics.com/united-states-gun-owners... As to the revolt, America doesn't do that any more. Years of education have removed both the vim and vigor of our souls. People will complain. They will do a TikTok dance as protest. Some will go into the streets. No meaningful uprising will occur. The poor and the affected will be told to go to the…

> Ultimately the US will go down hill to become a Belgium. Sharing one's opinion in a respectful way is possible. Less spectacle, so less eyeballs, but worth it. Try it.

>in a respectful way

The irony

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Cars don't work in dense places.

Sure but most of the world has a density low enough that cars work and trains don't really. I like trains as much as the next nerd, but you're never going to be able to take a train from your house to your local farm shop or whatever. Where trains work they are great. Where they don't, driverless electric cars seem like a great option.

Most of the world's population lives in places where trains and public transit works far better than cars. Density doesn't move around, people do.

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Billions of subsidies? Im confused you talking about cars or trains.

No major US public transportation system is fully paid for by riders.

Public transportation is the backbone of a functioning economy. It doesn't need to be fully paid by riders precisely because the rest of society benefits from it multiple times over.

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> Waymo had no choice but to solve the expensive problem of "Always Available and Safe" And it's still not clear whether they are using a fallback driving stack for a situation where one of non-essential (i.e. non-camera (1)) sensors is degraded. I haven't seen Waymo clearly stating capabilities of their self-driving stack in this regard. On the other hand, there are such things as washer fluid and high dynamic range…

Hence why both together make the solution waymo chose. The proof is in the pudding, Waymo's have been driving millions of miles without any intervention. Tesla requires safety drivers. I would never trust the FSD on my model 3 to be even nearly perfect all the time. Lidar also gives you the ability to see through fog and as it scans, see the depth needed to nearly always understand what object is in front of them. My…

Waymo also had safety drivers for years.

All you really need is "drive slower if you can't see (because rain, fog, or degraded cameras), or you're in an area where children might run out into the road"

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Google has been doing more R&D and internal deployment of AI and less trying to sell it as a product. IMHO that difference in focus makes a huge difference. I used to think their early work on self-driving cars was primarily to support Street View in thier maps.

There was a point in time when basically every well known AI researcher worked at Google. They have been at the forefront of AI research and investing heavily for longer than anybody. It’s kind of crazy that they have been slow to create real products and competitive large scale models from their research. But they are in full gear now that there is real competition, and it’ll be cool to see what they release over th…

> It’s kind of crazy that they have been slow to create real products and competitive large scale models from their research.

It’s not that crazy. Sometimes the rational move is to wait for a market to fully materialize before going after it. This isn’t a Xerox PARC situation, nor really the innovator’s dilemma, it’s about timing: turning research into profits when market conditions finally make it viable. Even mammoths like Google are limited in their ability to create entirely new markets.

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Tesla's also been involved in WAY more accidents than Waymo - and has tried to silence those people, claim FSD wasn't active, etc. What good is a huge fleet of Robotaxis if no one will trust them? I won't ever set foot in a Robotaxi, as long as Elon is involved.

waymo just hit it's first pedestrian, ever. It did it at a speed of 6mph and it was estimated a human would have hit the kid at 14mph (it was going 17mph when a small child jumped out in front of it from behind a black suv. First pedestrian struck. That's crazy. Tesla just disengages fsd anytime a sensor is slightly blocked/covered/blinded.. waymo out here doing fsd 100% of the time and basically never hurts anyone.…

Waymos disengage and get tele operated too?

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#589
been playing around with world models for sim-to-real transfer lately. the waymo approach looks solid, but curious how you're handling the distribution shift between generated scenes and real sensor data. any tricks for that besides the usual domain randomization?

Re: The Waymo World Model

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Could these world models be used to build some sort of endless GranTurismo type street racing game?

It seems inevitable that they'll soon be used as the starting points for developing almost all video game environments. Not for the rendering (that's still way too expensive), but for the initial world generation that gets iteratively refined and then still ultimately gets converted into textured triangles.

> It seems inevitable that they'll soon be used as the starting points for developing almost all video game environments.

Almost all video game environments? No way. That statement really needs to be qualified with the genres of games you're considering.

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