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Re: Nanobot: Ultra-Lightweight Alternative to OpenClaw

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Post by exographicskip »

px43 wrote: post #31
vanillameow wrote: post #5

Yeah I mean idk, my takeaway from OpenClaw was pretty much the same - why use someone's insane vibecoded 400k LoC CLI wrapper with 50k lines of "docs" (AI slop; and another 50k Chinese translation of the same AI slop) when I can just Claude Code myself a custom wrapper in 30 mins that has exactly what I need and won't take 4 seconds to respond to a CLI call. But my reaction to this project is again: Why would I use t…

"Open source" is no longer about "Hey I built this tool and everyone should use it". It's about "Hey I did this thing and it works for me, here's the lessons I learned along the way", at which point anyone can pull in what they need, discard what they don't, and build out their own bespoke tool sets for whatever job they're trying to accomplish. No one is trying to get you to use openclaw or nanobot, but now that the…

Are you me?? I'm literally building highly personalized and/or idiosyncratic software with claude to solve personal and professional problems.

Thanks to tauri, I've now made two desktop apps and one mobile app for the first time in the last two months.

None of this was nearly as feasible just a year ago

Re: Nanobot: Ultra-Lightweight Alternative to OpenClaw

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Post by orsorna »

mpolichette wrote: post #99
gdhkgdhkvff wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On one hand, I think this project is super cool and something I would use and/or would have loved to build myself for my own use. On the other hand, it makes me wonder if we’re just heading for a future where everyone is just always working, at all times, even while doing other things. “Wow look at our daughter taking her first steps! She’s doing so… wait hold on… No, Claude. I said to name the class “potatoes”, not…

I don't disagree, but I think there is the otherside of that same coin... What if we could do other stuff while remaining productive. Rather than the example of missing first steps, what if we had, "Ok Claude, prepare a few slides for my presentation, I'm going to watch my childs mid-day recital..." maybe you get a success/failure ping and maybe even need to step out for part of the event, but in another world you co…

I expect the opposite, where if you are not exploiting your newly freed time with more work, you will be left behind.

This is the premise of the comic Power Nap.

https://www.powernapcomic.com/powernap/

Re: Nanobot: Ultra-Lightweight Alternative to OpenClaw

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Post by RGamma »

zophi wrote: post #92
plingamp wrote: post #53

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Specifically when the document number reaches around 10k+, a phenomenon called "Semantic Collapse" occurs. https://dho.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/Legal_RAG_Halluc...

> Specifically when the document number reaches around 10k+ Where are you getting this? just read the paper and not seeing it -- interested to learn more

The RAG GP used suffered from semantic collapse.

Re: Nanobot: Ultra-Lightweight Alternative to OpenClaw

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Post by orsorna »

volkk wrote: post #89
gdhkgdhkvff wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On one hand, I think this project is super cool and something I would use and/or would have loved to build myself for my own use. On the other hand, it makes me wonder if we’re just heading for a future where everyone is just always working, at all times, even while doing other things. “Wow look at our daughter taking her first steps! She’s doing so… wait hold on… No, Claude. I said to name the class “potatoes”, not…

we kind of already are with our phones and Slack, the difference at this point is negligible. i personally won't have airpods in 24/7 with my kid (or ever) so if i were doing something like this, it would be through my phone, which is already something i use fairly often. not too much difference there IMO (at least anecdotally speaking)

I don't know what kind of work you do on a daily basis. But, the difference between sending a Slack message and sending a message to kick off an agent to chain a bunch of tasks together is a vastly lower activation barrier. I think many people will jump over that lower barrier out of FOMO, to avoid being outcompeted by those who already jumped.

As an IC though, me sending a slack message is perhaps less impactful than a PL responding to a report :)

Re: Nanobot: Ultra-Lightweight Alternative to OpenClaw

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Post by vmbm »

yberreby wrote: post #49

Watching the OpenClaw/Molbot craze has been entertaining. I wouldn't use it - too much code, changing too quickly, with too little regard for security - but it has inspired me. I often have ideas while cleaning around, cooking, etc. Claude Code (with Opus 4.5) is very capable. I've long wanted to get Claude Code working hands-free. So I took an afternoon and rolled my own STT-TTS voice stack for Claude Code. The voic…

I got into a bike accident yesterday and injured both of my arms. Fortunately the damage wasn't too severe, but it was bad enough that using a computer is rather difficult. So now I'm spending some of my idle time playing around with different options for voice control. Like you I am a little wary of OpenClaw so I might try something similar to your setup as an alternative. So far I have gotten to the point where I can use voice dictation in notepad to write comments and commands, but copying and pasting the text is enough of a struggle (compounded by the fact that my cat is competing with me for the keyboard and I am in no state to fend her off) that I am aiming to push things a bit further. Sucks being injured but having a nice distraction to keep my mind occupied has so far been a great way to pass the time.

Re: Nanobot: Ultra-Lightweight Alternative to OpenClaw

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Post by gervwyk »

visarga wrote: post #98
visarga wrote: post #75

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The fundamental problem wit RAG is that it extracts only surface level features, "31+24" won't embed close to "55", while "not happy" will be close to "happy". Another issue is that embedding similarity does not indicate logical dependency, you won't retrieve the callers of a function with RAG, you need a LLM or code for that. Third issue is chunking, to embed you need to chunk, but if you chunk you exclude informati…

Ok 2 hours later here is the release: https://github.com/horiacristescu/nub

This is a very cool idea. I’ve been dragging CC around very large code bases with a lot of docs and stuff. it does great but can be a swing and a miss.. have been wondering if there is a more efficient / effective way. This got me thinking. Thanks for sharing!

Re: Nanobot: Ultra-Lightweight Alternative to OpenClaw

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Post by htrp »

orsorna wrote: post #104
volkk wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

we kind of already are with our phones and Slack, the difference at this point is negligible. i personally won't have airpods in 24/7 with my kid (or ever) so if i were doing something like this, it would be through my phone, which is already something i use fairly often. not too much difference there IMO (at least anecdotally speaking)

I don't know what kind of work you do on a daily basis. But, the difference between sending a Slack message and sending a message to kick off an agent to chain a bunch of tasks together is a vastly lower activation barrier. I think many people will jump over that lower barrier out of FOMO, to avoid being outcompeted by those who already jumped. As an IC though, me sending a slack message is perhaps less impactful tha…

you basically just described management, where you send a slack message and kick off a bunch of tasks to your team

Re: Nanobot: Ultra-Lightweight Alternative to OpenClaw

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Post by resonious »

I hate to side-track like this but I'm having trouble understanding the architecture diagram. LLM has 2 arrows to Tools - what does that mean? Similarly, Tools has both a doublesided arrow and an outgoing arrow to Context. Chat Apps having outgoing arrows to both Message and LLM also kinda tripped me up but I suppose you could say it's because the apps both provide messaging and context for the LLM.

Re: Nanobot: Ultra-Lightweight Alternative to OpenClaw

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Post by tomlis »

orsorna wrote: post #102
mpolichette wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't disagree, but I think there is the otherside of that same coin... What if we could do other stuff while remaining productive. Rather than the example of missing first steps, what if we had, "Ok Claude, prepare a few slides for my presentation, I'm going to watch my childs mid-day recital..." maybe you get a success/failure ping and maybe even need to step out for part of the event, but in another world you co…

I expect the opposite, where if you are not exploiting your newly freed time with more work, you will be left behind. This is the premise of the comic Power Nap . https://www.powernapcomic.com/powernap/

Well, at some point it's up to us to say 'no.' Weekends have not always been a widely accepted ritual[1]. They only became one because of collective action.

Dedicating any and all of your free time to work only becomes a norm if we let it.

[1]: https://www.goodwinrecruiting.com/eight-hour-workdays-and-40...

Re: Nanobot: Ultra-Lightweight Alternative to OpenClaw

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Post by MarcelOlsz »

Aurornis wrote: post #100
lxgr wrote: post #97

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That doesn’t match my experience, both in test and actual usage scenarios. Gemini 3 Pro fails to satisfy pretty straightforward semantic content lookup requests for PDFs longer than a hundred pages for me, for example.

> for PDFs longer than a hundred pages for me Your original comment that I responded to said a "few hundred lines of text", not hundred page PDFs.

It's you who misunderstood. They have one large word on each page.
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