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Re: Nanobot: Ultra-Lightweight Alternative to OpenClaw

#81

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What do you use AI for? Pretty much everyone in my company also uses AI. But everyone sees the same downsides.

Yep. But on HN, there's a huge cohort of people saying AI is useless. Everyone sees the downsides but the upside is the one everyone is in denial about. It's like yeah, there's downsides but why is literally everyone using it?

Not everyone is using it.

Re: Nanobot: Ultra-Lightweight Alternative to OpenClaw

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Skimmed the repo, this is basically the irreducible core of an agent: small loop, provider abstraction, tool dispatch, and chat gateways . The LOC reduction (99%, from 400k to 4k) mostly comes from leaving out RAG pipelines, planners, multi-agent orchestration, UIs, and production ops.

Unless I'm misunderstanding what they are, planners seem kind of important.

I don’t know what these planners do, but I’ve had reasonably good luck asking a coding agent to write a design doc and then reviewing it a few times.

Re: Nanobot: Ultra-Lightweight Alternative to OpenClaw

#83

Watching the OpenClaw/Molbot craze has been entertaining. I wouldn't use it - too much code, changing too quickly, with too little regard for security - but it has inspired me. I often have ideas while cleaning around, cooking, etc. Claude Code (with Opus 4.5) is very capable. I've long wanted to get Claude Code working hands-free. So I took an afternoon and rolled my own STT-TTS voice stack for Claude Code. The voic…

On one hand, I think this project is super cool and something I would use and/or would have loved to build myself for my own use.

On the other hand, it makes me wonder if we’re just heading for a future where everyone is just always working, at all times, even while doing other things.

“Wow look at our daughter taking her first steps! She’s doing so… wait hold on… No, Claude. I said to name the class “potatoes”, not “‘pot’ followed by eight ‘O’s,” you dumb robot!”

Re: Nanobot: Ultra-Lightweight Alternative to OpenClaw

#84

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there's an entire cohort on HN who still claim AI is utterly and completely useless despite in your face evidence. Literally people making a similar claim word for word who say that they don't understand the hype that they used AI themselves and it's shit. Meanwhile my entire company uses AI and the on the ground reality for me versus the cohort above is so much at odds with each other we're both claiming the other s…

The comment above was saying OpenClaw was useless relative to their other heavy AI usage. The person you’re criticizing says they’re a heavy AI user. The take was about OpenClaw, not AI.

Yeah, and he's basically asking for more OpenClaw success stories.

Re: Nanobot: Ultra-Lightweight Alternative to OpenClaw

#85

What are people using these things for? The use cases I've seen look a bit contrived and I could ask Claude or ChatGPT to do it directly

I spun up an Debian stable ec2 vm (using an agent + aws cli + aws-vault of course) to host openclaw, giving it full root access, and I talk to it on discord.

It's a little slow sometimes, but it's the first time I've felt like I have an independent agent that can handle things kind of.

The only two things I did were 1. Ask it to create a Monero address so I could send it money, and have it notify me whenever money is sent to that address. It spun up its own monerod daemon which was really heavy and it ran out of space. So I had to get it to use the Monero wallet instead, but had to manually intervene to shut down the monerod daemon and kill the process and restart openclaw. In the end it worked and still works. 2. I simply asked it "@ me the the silver price every day around 8am ET" and it just figured out how to do it and schedule it. To my understanding it has its own cron functionality using a json file. 3. Write and host some python scripts I can ping externally to send me a notification

I've had it done other misc stuff, but ChatGPT is almost always better for queries, and coding agents + Zed is much better for coding. But with a cheap enough vm and using openrouter plus glm 4.7 or flash, it can do some quirky fun stuff. I see the advantage as mainly having control of a system where it can have long term state (like files, processes, etc) and manage context itself. It is more like glue and it's full mastery and control of a Linux system gives it a lot of flexibility.

Think of it more as agent+os which you aren't getting with raw Claude or ChatGPT.

I've done nothing that interesting with it, it's absolutely a security nightmare, but it's really fun!

Re: Nanobot: Ultra-Lightweight Alternative to OpenClaw

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No, RAG is definitely preferable once your memory size grows above a few hundred lines of text (which you can just dump into the context for most current models), since you're no longer fighting context limits and needle-in-a-haystack LLM retrieval performance problems.

> once your memory size grows above a few hundred lines of text (which you can just dump into the context for most current models) A few hundred lines of text is nothing for current LLMs. You can dump the entire contents of The Great Gatsby into any of the frontier LLMs and it’s only around 70K tokens. This is less than 1/3 of common context window sizes. That’s even true for models I run locally on modest hardware n…

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Re: Nanobot: Ultra-Lightweight Alternative to OpenClaw

#89

Watching the OpenClaw/Molbot craze has been entertaining. I wouldn't use it - too much code, changing too quickly, with too little regard for security - but it has inspired me. I often have ideas while cleaning around, cooking, etc. Claude Code (with Opus 4.5) is very capable. I've long wanted to get Claude Code working hands-free. So I took an afternoon and rolled my own STT-TTS voice stack for Claude Code. The voic…

On one hand, I think this project is super cool and something I would use and/or would have loved to build myself for my own use. On the other hand, it makes me wonder if we’re just heading for a future where everyone is just always working, at all times, even while doing other things. “Wow look at our daughter taking her first steps! She’s doing so… wait hold on… No, Claude. I said to name the class “potatoes”, not…

we kind of already are with our phones and Slack, the difference at this point is negligible. i personally won't have airpods in 24/7 with my kid (or ever) so if i were doing something like this, it would be through my phone, which is already something i use fairly often. not too much difference there IMO (at least anecdotally speaking)

Re: Nanobot: Ultra-Lightweight Alternative to OpenClaw

#90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. But on HN, there's a huge cohort of people saying AI is useless. Everyone sees the downsides but the upside is the one everyone is in denial about. It's like yeah, there's downsides but why is literally everyone using it?

Not everyone is using it.

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