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Re: Company as Code

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Post by chrisjj »

arnvald wrote: post #10

It's all cool as long as you keep all of this up to date, and that requires a lot of scrutiny and discipline. Once I had to go through a security audit at a job I had. Part of it was to show managing secret keys and who had access to them. And then I realized that the list of people who had access to one key was different than the list of the code owners of the service I was looking at, which was yet different than t…

> 3 different sources of truth about ownership

I see only 1.

Admin, access ownership.

Re: Company as Code

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Post by greatgib »

I think that it is a narrow view of a "developer" that imagine reinventing what basically already exist in decade with HR/"people management" management software that are widely distributed. It is sometimes also done by big ERP and basically available in any big directory and access management platform like Microsoft Entra ID (or whatever is the last current name) and co...

In some big companies, for expenses or performance reviews you have a terrible stack of relationship info and logic involved.

We could even say somehow that the first big entreprise software were creating with that kind of purpose for the modern IT area.

The worst limitation to all of this is users being lazy to input all the info that might be required, or updating it. For example, how many of you never filled their "address" in their record in the big company internal directory portal because it looks useless and is not mandatory?

Re: Company as Code

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Post by dlojudice »

As a programmer and founder, I think the idea is incredible, I would just change the understanding of "Code", given that what we've been hearing most lately is that "a markdown file is all you need".

I think it's not too far-fetched to think about standards, cultures, guardrails, compliance, etc. being documented, versioned, but more importantly, verifiable and applicable. In natural language, no code needed.

Re: Company as Code

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Post by zjaffee »

Isn't this essentially just trying to reinvent ERP (i.e. what SAP has built a 207 billion dollar company at time of writing on and 90% of fortune 500 companies along with endless other large organizations use).

One can argue that ERP as code is higher value than whatever it is right now, but to act like this is a totally new idea is insane.

Re: Company as Code

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Post by martythemaniak »

Interestingly, reading about Yegge's Gas Town got me thinking about this topic. Gas Town aims to create a "dark software factory" where agents organize themselves to build software autonomously with only high-level human direction, so Yegge created a weird rube goldberg fever dream of cats, preachers, diggers, mayors and god knows what else. But why? We already have real human organizations staffed and structured in particular ways that are able to deliver software, why not follow that pattern? With something like this, agents can start with a generic software dev shop and iterate on their own organization, instead of Yegge manually dreaming up what roles and relationships should exist.

Re: Company as Code

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Post by conception »

ActionHank wrote: post #9
conception wrote: post #5

This is not a bad idea but this person basically reinvented LDAP. Everything he wanted to do is already in LDAP, much already in Active Directory.

All they need to do now is slap AI on it and they'll have bags of cash delivered to their door.

LAIDBACK - Lightweight AI Directory Barely Actually Checking Krendentialz?

Re: Company as Code

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Post by dmd »

zjaffee wrote: post #34

Isn't this essentially just trying to reinvent ERP (i.e. what SAP has built a 207 billion dollar company at time of writing on and 90% of fortune 500 companies along with endless other large organizations use). One can argue that ERP as code is higher value than whatever it is right now, but to act like this is a totally new idea is insane.

I worked in a place where basically everything that happened in the company was implemented as actions within Lotus Notes.

While the choice of implementation and performance were abysmal (Notes was a great/the only choice when the decision was made but 25 years later not so much), the actual idea was amazing and it worked extremely well.

Re: Company as Code

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Post by miohtama »

I recommend book Accelerado by Charlie Stross:

Um.” Manfred finds it, floating three tiers down an elaborate object hierarchy. It’s flashing for attention. There’s a priority interrupt, an incoming lawsuit that hasn’t propagated up the inheritance tree yet. He prods at the object with a property browser. “I’m afraid I’m not a director of that company, Mr. Glashwiecz. I appear to be retained by it as a technical contractor with nonexecutive power, reporting to the president, but frankly, this is the first time I’ve ever heard of the company. However, I can tell you who’s in charge if you want.” “Yes?” The attorney sounds almost interested. Manfred figures it out; the guy’s in New Jersey. It must be about three in the morning over there. Malice—revenge for waking him up—sharpens Manfred’s voice. “The president of http://agalmic.holdings .root.184.97.AB5 is http://agalmic.holdings .root.184.97.201. The secretary is http://agalmic.holdings .root.184.D5, and the chair is http://agalmic.holdings .root.184.E8.FF. All the shares are owned by those companies in equal measure, and I can tell you that their regulations are written in Python. Have a nice day, now!”

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