Not sure why they made the connection to sentry.io and not with CT logs. My first thought was that "*.some-subdomain." got added to the CT logs and someone is scanning *. with well known hosts, of which "nas" would be one. Curious if they have more insights into sentry.io leaking and where does it leak to...
When internal hostnames are leaked to the clown
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Re: When internal hostnames are leaked to the clown
#42Re: When internal hostnames are leaked to the clown
#43>Hope you didn't name it anything sensitive, like "mycorp-and-othercorp-planned-merger-storage", or something. So, no one competent is going to do this, domains are not encrypted by HTTPS, any sensitive info is pushed to the URL Path. I think being controlling of domain names is a sign of a good sysadmin, it's also a bit schizophrenic, but you gotta be a little schizophrenic to be the type of sysadmin that never gets…
Btw, in this case it can’t be paranoia since the belief was not irrational - the author was being watched.
Re: When internal hostnames are leaked to the clown
#44Re: When internal hostnames are leaked to the clown
#45>Hope you didn't name it anything sensitive, like "mycorp-and-othercorp-planned-merger-storage", or something. So, no one competent is going to do this, domains are not encrypted by HTTPS, any sensitive info is pushed to the URL Path. I think being controlling of domain names is a sign of a good sysadmin, it's also a bit schizophrenic, but you gotta be a little schizophrenic to be the type of sysadmin that never gets…
Obl. nitpick: you mean paranoia, presumably. Schizophrenia is a dissociative/psychotic disorder, paranoia is the irrational belief that you’re being persecuted/watched/etc. Btw, in this case it can’t be paranoia since the belief was not irrational - the author was being watched.
>Btw, in this case it can’t be paranoia since the belief was not irrational - the author was being watched.
Yes, but I mean being overly cautious in the threat model. For example, birds may be watching through my window, it's true and I might catch a bird watching my house, but it's paranoid in the sense that it's too tight of a threat model.
Re: When internal hostnames are leaked to the clown
#46I think people are misunderstanding. This isn't CT logs, its a wildcard certificate so it wouldn't leak the "nas" part. It's sentry catching client-side traces and calling home with them, and then picking out the hostname from the request that sent them (ie, "nas.nothing-special.whatever.example.com") and trying to poll it for whatever reason, which is going to a separate server that is catching the wildcard domain a…
My first thought was perhaps they're trying to fetch a favicon for rendering against the traces in the UI?
Re: When internal hostnames are leaked to the clown
#47>Hope you didn't name it anything sensitive, like "mycorp-and-othercorp-planned-merger-storage", or something. So, no one competent is going to do this, domains are not encrypted by HTTPS, any sensitive info is pushed to the URL Path. I think being controlling of domain names is a sign of a good sysadmin, it's also a bit schizophrenic, but you gotta be a little schizophrenic to be the type of sysadmin that never gets…
> any sensitive info is pushed to the URL Path This too is not ideal. It gets saved in the browser history, and if the url is sent by message (email or IM), the provider may visit it. > Definitely uninstall whatever junk leaked your domain though, but it's really nothing. We are used to the tracking being everywhere but it is scandalous and should be considered as such. Not the subdomain leak part, that's just how Ra…
Sure. POST for extra security.
> Not the subdomain leak part, that's just how Rachel noticed, but the non advertised tracking from an appliance chosen to be connected privately.
If this were a completely local product, like say a USB stick. Sure. but this is a Network Attached Storage product, and the user explicitly chose to use network functions (domains, http), it's not the same category of issue.
Re: When internal hostnames are leaked to the clown
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Obl. nitpick: you mean paranoia, presumably. Schizophrenia is a dissociative/psychotic disorder, paranoia is the irrational belief that you’re being persecuted/watched/etc. Btw, in this case it can’t be paranoia since the belief was not irrational - the author was being watched.
You are right, I meant paranoid. >Btw, in this case it can’t be paranoia since the belief was not irrational - the author was being watched. Yes, but I mean being overly cautious in the threat model. For example, birds may be watching through my window, it's true and I might catch a bird watching my house, but it's paranoid in the sense that it's too tight of a threat model.
Re: When internal hostnames are leaked to the clown
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Is "clown GCP Host" a technical term I am unaware of, or is the author just voicing their discontent? Clown is Rachel's word for (Big Tech's) cloud.
She was (or is) at Facebook, and "clowntown" and "clowny" are words you see there.
was (and she worked at Google too)
> "clowntown" and "clowny" are words you see there.
Didn't know this, interesting!
Re: When internal hostnames are leaked to the clown
#50Oh god this sucks, i've been setting up lots of services on my NAS pointing to my own domains recently. Can't even name the domains on my own damn server with an expectation of privacy now.
You never could. A host name or a domain is bound to leave your box, it's meant to. It takes sending an email with a local email client.
(Not saying, the NAS leak still sucks)