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A case study in PDF forensics: The Epstein PDFs

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Re: A case study in PDF forensics: The Epstein PDFs

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Post by whattheheckheck »

kmeisthax wrote: post #36
ted_bunny wrote: post #34

Has anyone analysed JE's writing style and looked for matches in archived 4chan posts or content from similar platforms? Same with Ghislaine, there should be enough data to identify them atp right? I don't buy the MaxwellHill claims for various reasons but it doesn't mean there's nothing to find.

I'm pretty sure Epstein tried to meet with moot at least once: https://www.jmail.world/search?q=chris+poole

Created /pol/ for epstein himself https://bsky.app/profile/kaiserbeamz.bsky.social/post/3mdou7...

Re: A case study in PDF forensics: The Epstein PDFs

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Post by whattheheckheck »

GaryBluto wrote: post #112
WetMinister wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re acting as if https://doge.gov does not exist. Ask yourself under which presidency, administration and kind of politics such is allowed to even exist with a straight face.

It would've existed regardless of internet memes, just under a different and similarly obnoxious name.

You actually think if we replayed society and magically shut off internet memes it would have played out the exact same but under a different name?

Re: A case study in PDF forensics: The Epstein PDFs

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Post by whattheheckheck »

PantaloonFlames wrote: post #136
Beijinger wrote: post #101

What would be more interesting: His Bank accounts. Who paid him? Who did get paid?

And for sure the DOJ knows this, or can know it if they want.

You think the personal lawyers of Donald Trump Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche will follow the money unbiasedly? As well as children's book, The Plot Against the King, author Kash Patel and FBI director? As well as Russian asset herself, Tulsa Gabbard director of National Intelligence want to do anything against their power source?

Re: A case study in PDF forensics: The Epstein PDFs

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Post by whattheheckheck »

shevy-java wrote: post #143

So I have been wondering about this ... Some of the gathered data is shown here, right? Probably not all. Now ... that's static information though. That's not really an analysis, most definitely not an independent (open ended) analysis. And it will only show a very incomplete part of the full picture. This is why I think the "release the files" movement, as good as they are, seems incomplete. I'd rather know a lot mo…

Its about showing the public the whole system is corrupt and the wheels of justice have turned into squares if not entirely removed. Its the eulogy of the American justice system and probably the America as a whole. Welcome to the speedy decline

Re: A case study in PDF forensics: The Epstein PDFs

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Post by DavidPeiffer »

culi wrote: post #144
ted_bunny wrote: post #34

Has anyone analysed JE's writing style and looked for matches in archived 4chan posts or content from similar platforms? Same with Ghislaine, there should be enough data to identify them atp right? I don't buy the MaxwellHill claims for various reasons but it doesn't mean there's nothing to find.

There was a post on here about a project in stylometry that analyzed HN users comment history. The tool helped find accounts that had an extremely similar writing style to a given account. The site was soon removed due to privacy concerns but many users with multiple account attested to its accuracy https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33755016 It turns out stylometry is actually a pretty well-developed field. It mak…

>It makes me wanna write an AI browser assistant that can take my comments and stylize them randomly to make it harder to use these sorts of forensics against me

The old trick years ago was to translate from English to different language and back (possibly repeating). I'd be curious how helpful it is against stylometry detection?

Re: A case study in PDF forensics: The Epstein PDFs

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Post by dashundchen »

ronnier wrote: post #94
mort96 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to substantiate this a bit: I remember a gleeful consensus in certain circles being that /pol/ and /r/the_donald had "memed Trump into the White House". It's much more complicated than that, but there's certainly an element of truth there.

Then Reddit and almost all of social media went on to purge trump and pro trump content. The Donald was banned. Trump deplatformed across social media.

2015 - 2016 reddit was exploited to hell by the_donald and other associated reddits. Things like coordinated up voting of a pinned post to get it to shoot up the front page, private chats to manipulate voting in a page.

There would be times when you would go to the r/all and half the page would be posts from them.

Not to mention a lot of the organized harassment a lot of the mods/power users of that sub caused in the years after. It was a mess.

Hey quick question, around January 2021, what would happened that caused Trump to be deplatformed? Anything stick out in your mind?

Re: A case study in PDF forensics: The Epstein PDFs

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Post by JKCalhoun »

Interesting, there are a handful of PDFs in the drop that appear to be an email with a Base64 encoded attachment—inline.

OCR is so bad of course that decoding the Base64 seems futile without a lot of effort.

Example: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02609...

(More mentioned here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/1qu9az2/theres_unr...)

Re: A case study in PDF forensics: The Epstein PDFs

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Post by zahlman »

Paracompact wrote: post #128
zahlman wrote: post #95

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How could that be possible? Isn't JPEG a fairly straightforward container for JFIF+metadata?

"Fairly straightforward" is incorrect. Not an authority to describe in more detail, but the most tricky blocker I'm aware of are these proprietary "MakerNote" tags from camera manufacturers, which are (often undocumented) binary blobs. exiftool might not even know what's in there, let alone how to safely remove it without corrupting the file.

> exiftool might not even know what's in there, let alone how to safely remove it without corrupting the file.

But isn't it a contiguous sequence of data whose length is determined by the container format?

Re: A case study in PDF forensics: The Epstein PDFs

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Post by ttoinou »

whattheheckheck wrote: post #153
PantaloonFlames wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And for sure the DOJ knows this, or can know it if they want.

You think the personal lawyers of Donald Trump Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche will follow the money unbiasedly? As well as children's book, The Plot Against the King, author Kash Patel and FBI director? As well as Russian asset herself, Tulsa Gabbard director of National Intelligence want to do anything against their power source?

Yet this was released under their term and not previous presidential terms

Re: A case study in PDF forensics: The Epstein PDFs

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Post by nurettin »

durkie wrote: post #145
ted_bunny wrote: post #132

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Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. "Ooh, la" sounds really unnatural. But on a serious note, what did "la" mean in your context? I've never seen this.

It’s a common thing for speakers of Singaporean English to end sentences with la/leh. But no idea if that’s what’s going on here.

In Turkish la at the end disrespectfully refers to a male person.
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