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OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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Or how "your next meeting will be in Metaverse"

Hoping that LLMs go the way of the Metaverse.

there is little chance of that, especially with people running them locally

Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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Exactly. Apple operates at a scale where it's very difficult to deploy this technology for its sexy applications. The tech is simply too broken and flawed at this point. (Whatever Apple does deploy, you can bet it will be heavily guardrailed.) With ~2.5 billion devices in active use, they can't take the Tesla approach of letting AI drive cars into fire trucks.

This is so obvious I'm kind of surprised the author used to be a software engineer at Google (based on his Linkedin). OpenClaw is very much a greenfield idea and there's plenty of startups like Raycast working in this area.

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Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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post #108

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File taxes? That's a tall order, especially juxtaposed with managing calendar or responding to emails.

> File taxes? Sure why not, what could go wrong? "Siri, find me a good tax lawyer." "Your honor, my client's AI agent had no intent to willfully evade anything."

These people live on another planet.

Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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people are buying Mac Minis specifically to run AI agents with computer use. They’re setting up headless machines whose sole job is to automate their workflows. OpenClaw—the open-source framework that lets you run Claude, GPT-4, or whatever model you want to actually control your computer—has become the killer app for Mac hardware That makes little sense. Buying mac mini would imply for the fused v-ram with the gpu c…

It doesn't make sense because it's a lie. The author's blog has 2 articles, both of them shilling OpenClaw.

Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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Probably the Mac Mini. A few OpenClaw users are buying the agent a dedicated device so that it can integrate with their Apple account. For example: https://x.com/michael_chomsky/status/2017686846910959668 .

Why would it need more than 1? Couldn't they do this with any Mac with an Apple account?

Mac Minis are perfect for locally running demanding models because they can effectively use ordinary RAM as VRAM.

Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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who's "afraid" of green bubbles? it's like saying a toyota corolla driver is afraid of the ford pinto

iMessage lock in is a huge thing. When it was new and was still e2ee I ended up buying iPhones for everyone I regularly messaged.

These days it is insecure however because they backdoored the e2ee and kept it backdoored for the FBI, so now Signal is the only messenger I am reachable on.

Blue bubble snobbery is presently a mark of ignorance more than anything else.

Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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> ten years from now, people will look back at 2024-2025 as the moment Apple had a clear shot at owning the agent layer and chose not to take it I don't pretend to know the future (nor do I believe anyone else who claims to be able to), but I think the opposite has a good chance of happening too, and hype would die down over "AI" and the bubble bursts, and the current overvaluation (imo at least. I still think it is…

> consumers realising the limits of "AI",

This is my guess for the demand side: most people will drift away as the novelty wears off and they don't find it useful in their daily lives. It's more a "fading point" than a "breaking point."

From the investment/speculation side: something will go dramatically against the narrative. OpenAI's attempted "liquidity event" of an IPO looks like WeWork as investors get a look at the numbers, Oracle implodes in a mountain of debt, NVidia cuts back on vendor financing and some major public players (e.g. Coreweave) die in a fire. This one will be a "breaking point."

Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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> This is exactly what Apple Intelligence should have been... They could have shipped an agentic AI that actually automated your computer instead of summarizing your notifications. Imagine if Siri could genuinely file your taxes, respond to emails, or manage your calendar by actually using your apps, not through some brittle API layer that breaks every update. And this is probably coming, a few years from now. Becaus…

> Imagine if Siri could genuinely file your taxes, respond to emails, or manage your calendar

> And this is probably coming, a few years from now.

Given how often I say "Hey Siri, fast forward", expecting her to skip the audio forward by 30 seconds, and she replies "Calling Troy S" a roofing contractor who quoted some work for me last year, and then just starts calling him without confirmation, which is massively embarassing...

This idea terrifies me.

Re: OpenClaw is what Apple intelligence should have been

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The OpenClaw concept is fundamentally insecure by design and prompt injection means it can never be secure.

If Apple were to ever put something like that into the hands of the masses every page on the internet would be stuffed with malicious prompts, and the phishing industry would see a revival the likes of which we can only imagine.

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