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As Rocks May Think

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Re: As Rocks May Think

#42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you actually doing anything in that direction or is this “tough guy on the internet?” I see literally zero people doing the equivalent of “breaking the factories” like the luddites attempted

I think we'd need a lot more suffering before we have enough people to start that kind of action. If we see 35% unemployment over the next 5 years with insufficient time to adjust, then maybe the pitchforks come out.

So then we should just go slightly slower?

What if it’s over 10 years?

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#43

This person doesn't understand how LLMs work.

Not sure how you could read this essay and come to that conclusion. It definitely aligns with my own understanding, and his conclusions seem pretty reasonable (though the AI 2027/Situational Awareness part might be arguable)

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#44

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The article goes from philosophical (what AI will do to society) to jargony blowhard and then even deeper look (I think. I flicked my thumb past several screens of text), and back out again.

Come on author, learn to write properly. Or tell your LLM to not mix a philosophical article with a technical one.

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#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AIUI, in most lines of work AI is being used to replace/augment pointless paper-pushing jobs. It doesn't seem to be all that useful for real, productive work. Coding may be a limited exception, but even then the AI's job is to be basically a dumb (if sometimes knowledgeable) code monkey. You still need to do all the architecture and detailed design work if you want something maintainable at the end of the day.

> It doesn't seem to be all that useful for real, productive work. Even the most pointless bullshit job accomplishes a societal function by transferring wages from a likely wealthy large corporation to a individual worker who has bills to pay. Eliminating bullshit jobs might be good from an economic efficiency perspective, but people still gotta eat.

The logic of American economic policy relies on a large velocity of money driven by consumer habits. It is tautological, and it is obsolete in the face of the elite trying to minimize wage expenses.

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#46

I'm still waiting for one of these articles to be written by someone without something to be directly gained by the hype. Eric Jang, VP of AI at 1X.

The previous post in this blog is titled "Leaving 1X". So your wait is over!

Re: As Rocks May Think

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AIUI, in most lines of work AI is being used to replace/augment pointless paper-pushing jobs. It doesn't seem to be all that useful for real, productive work. Coding may be a limited exception, but even then the AI's job is to be basically a dumb (if sometimes knowledgeable) code monkey. You still need to do all the architecture and detailed design work if you want something maintainable at the end of the day.

> It doesn't seem to be all that useful for real, productive work. Even the most pointless bullshit job accomplishes a societal function by transferring wages from a likely wealthy large corporation to a individual worker who has bills to pay. Eliminating bullshit jobs might be good from an economic efficiency perspective, but people still gotta eat.

If the only point is distributing money, then the pointless bullshit job is an unnecessary complication.

Re: As Rocks May Think

#49

> Chief among all changes is that machines can code and think quite well now. They can’t and never will.

Are you really claiming that there isn't a machine in existence that can code? And that that is never possible?

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#50
post #46

I'm still waiting for one of these articles to be written by someone without something to be directly gained by the hype. Eric Jang, VP of AI at 1X.

The previous post in this blog is titled "Leaving 1X". So your wait is over!

Unrelated, but it seems his previous company, 1x, was initially named Halodi and was located in Norway. And eventually, it was moved with all employees in Silicon Valley. How the hell does that work? That sounds like a logistical nightmare.Do you upend all those people's lives? Do you fire those who refuse? How many norwegians even want to go to the US? Sounds crazy to me.
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