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Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

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Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

#52

> push by Chief Executive Satya Nadella to transform Microsoft into an AI-first company Why can't we have a 'user-first' company. Maybe think about the user of your products a wee tiny bit. But no, it is not to be.

I thought it was cloud first, or was it mobile first, I don't remember.

I believe they skipped blockchain first so at least there is that.

Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

#53

The biggest issue I see is Microsoft's entire mentality around AI adoption that focuses more on "getting the numbers up" then actually delivering a product people want to use. Most of the announcements I hear about Copilot, it's always how they've integrated it into some other piece of software or cut a deal with yet another vendor to add it to that vendors product offering. On the surface there's nothing wrong with…

The wild thing is, the business prop is so clear - an llm built into your corporate data, with the same security, guard rails, grc auditing stack that protects the rest of your data. Why integrate and exfiltrate to an outside company?

But copilot is fucking terrible. Sometimes I ask it powershell questions about microsoft products and it hallucinates answers. Get your shit together microsoft, why would I use this product for any reason if it doesnt work squarely inside your own stack

Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

#54

The biggest issue I see is Microsoft's entire mentality around AI adoption that focuses more on "getting the numbers up" then actually delivering a product people want to use. Most of the announcements I hear about Copilot, it's always how they've integrated it into some other piece of software or cut a deal with yet another vendor to add it to that vendors product offering. On the surface there's nothing wrong with…

It feels like that's the entire MO of the Azure platform as well. Make a minimum viable product and then get adoption by selling at all costs, despite the products edges.

Didn't Nadella come from the Azure side? In that sense it'd make sense that what they were doing would spread to the rest of the company.

Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

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post #40

They really dropped the ball on this - they are down ~12% for the year. When they first started, they seemed to be firing on all cylinders and looked like they were going to be big winners, but the strategy has just been a slow motion car crash. I wonder if Satya is the right person for Microsoft.

It was a fresh air after Balmer and he helped opening the company to open source, naturally not without their own intentions, however Satya has been a disaster for the consumer branding, anything related to Windows.

Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

#56

The 3.3% paid conversion is not great. Believe it or not, the Recon Analytics trend is actually worse primary usage among Copilot subscribers dropped from 18.8% to 11.5% since July while Gemini climbed past it. People who paid are leaving. That's a churn problem. The tell is buried in the article: workers who have access to Copilot, ChatGPT, and Gemini side by side choose ChatGPT and Gemini at higher rates. Some comp…

> unlike anything we've seen before

They probably haven't seen (to pull a number out of a hat) negative three billion percent growth before either…

Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

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post #8

Maybe Microsoft needs to fix the cart before they put the jet engines on top of it and try to kill the horses off. Go back to fixing what’s wrong with Windows, then worry about the AI software running on top of it and where you can add a value proposition, because right now the Windows value proposition is continuing to go right down the shitter as everyone flees Windows 11.

Can't say Win 11 is really that bad. Contrast that to the Linux desktop which "just doesn't work" and my M4 Mac Mini that amazed me with how fast it was when I bought it and a year later it is beachball... beachball... beachball... reboot. beachball... beachball... beachball... Doesn't help that they vandalized the UI by adding meaningless transparency effects which don't actually look cool but rather look like they…

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Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

#59
post #8

Maybe Microsoft needs to fix the cart before they put the jet engines on top of it and try to kill the horses off. Go back to fixing what’s wrong with Windows, then worry about the AI software running on top of it and where you can add a value proposition, because right now the Windows value proposition is continuing to go right down the shitter as everyone flees Windows 11.

Can't say Win 11 is really that bad. Contrast that to the Linux desktop which "just doesn't work" and my M4 Mac Mini that amazed me with how fast it was when I bought it and a year later it is beachball... beachball... beachball... reboot. beachball... beachball... beachball... Doesn't help that they vandalized the UI by adding meaningless transparency effects which don't actually look cool but rather look like they…

  > which "just doesn't work"
Some are more tech savy than others here, but I guess almost anyone can do the following trick successfully:

  step 1. visit https://endeavouros.com/
  step 2. download iso
  step 3. flash iso on medium
  step 4. boot medium, installation window shows
  step 5. you choose KDE, yes: KDE. Do more mouse clicks.
  step 6. system tells you it's done, and offers you to reboot.
Done.

Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

#60

> push by Chief Executive Satya Nadella to transform Microsoft into an AI-first company Why can't we have a 'user-first' company. Maybe think about the user of your products a wee tiny bit. But no, it is not to be.

Because most of Microsoft's revenue is not generated by end-users. It's large government agencies and big corporations where the end-user is ten steps detached from the actual decision to buy or not to buy something.

How's that different from Red Hat Linux? I mean, Linux is all about corporate takeover by IBM, Google and the like. The mainstream of Linux GUI is Android for crying out loud and X and Wayland are rounding errors compared to that.
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