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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it 0.003 per minute of audio uploaded, or "compute minute"? For example fal.ai has a Whisper API endpoint priced at "$0.00125 per compute second" which (at 10-25x realtime) is EXTREMELY cheaper than all the competitors.

I think the point is having it for real-time; this is for conversations rather than transcribing audio files.

That quote was for the non-realtime model.

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Is it me or error rate of 3% is really high? If you transcribe a minute of conversation, you'll have like 5 words transcribed wrongly. In an hour podcast, that is 300 wrongly transcribed words.

The error rate for human transcription can be as high as 5%.

Oh wow, I thought humans are like 0.1% error rate, if they are native speakers and aware of the subject being discussed.

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Italian represents, I believe, the most phonetically advanced human language. It has the right compromise among information density, understandability, and ability to speech much faster to compensate the redundancy. It's like if it had error correction built-in. Note that it's not just that it has the lower error rate, but is also underrepresented in most datasets.

> the most phonetically advanced human language

That's interesting. As a linguist, I have to say that Haskell is the most computationally advanced programming language, having the best balance of clear syntax and expressiveness. I am qualified to say this because I once used Haskell to make a web site, and I also tried C++ but I kept on getting errors.

/s obviously.

Tldr: computer scientists feel unjustifiably entitled to make scientific-sounding but meaningless pronouncements on topics outside their field of expertise.

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post #34

Do we know if this is better than Nvidia Parakeet V3? That has been my go-to model locally and it's hard to imagine there's something even better.

I liked Parakeet v3 a lot until it started to drop whole sentences, willy-nilly.

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post #17

Italian represents, I believe, the most phonetically advanced human language. It has the right compromise among information density, understandability, and ability to speech much faster to compensate the redundancy. It's like if it had error correction built-in. Note that it's not just that it has the lower error rate, but is also underrepresented in most datasets.

I love seeing people from other countries share their own folk tales about what makes their countries special and unique. I've seen it up close in my country and I always cringed when I heard my fellow countrymen came up with these stories. In my adulthood I'm reassured that it happens everywhere and I find it endearing.

On the information density of languages: it is true that some languages have a more information dense textual representation. But all spoken languages convey about the same information in the same time. Which is not all that surprising, it just means that human brains have an optimal range at which they process information.

Further reading: Coupé, Christophe, et al. "Different Languages, Similar Encoding Efficiency: Comparable Information Rates across the Human Communicative Niche." Science Advances. https://doi.org/10.1126/sciadv.aaw2594

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post #39

Pseudo related -- am I the only one uncomfortable using my voice with AI for the concern that once it is in the training model it is forever reproducible? As a non-public person it seems like a risk vector (albeit small),

It's a real issue, but why do you only see it in ai? It's true for any case where you're speaking into a microphone

Depending on the permissions granted to apps on your mobile device, it can even be passively exfiltrated without you ever noticing - and that's ignoring the video clips people take and put online. Like your grandma uploading to Facebook a short moment from a Christmas meet or similar

There have already been successful scams - eg calls from "relatives" (AI) calling family members needing money urgently and convincing them to send the money...

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