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Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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> fairly open platform where people can choose what to post and who to follow.

It is well known Musk amplifies his own speech and the words of those he agrees with on the platform, while banning those he doesn’t like.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/15/elon-m...

> could you clarify what the difference is between the near right and the far right?

It’s called far-right because it’s further to the right (starting from the centre) than the right. Wikipedia is your friend, it offers plenty of examples and even helpfully lays out the full spectrum in a way even a five year old with a developmental impairment could understand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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There's no tool, technological or legal, to block/ban a website EU-wide.

They will set their DNS servers to drop all incoming connections to X. That can be done in each country. They can use Deep Packet inspection tools and go from there. If the decision is EU wide then they will roll that out.

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Honest question: What does it mean to "raid" the offices of a tech company? It's not like they have file cabinets with paper records. Are they just seizing employee workstations? Seems like you'd want to subpoena source code or gmail history or something like that. Not much interesting in an office these days.

Gather evidence against employees, use that evidence to put them under pressure to testify against their employer or grant access to evidence. Sabu was put under pressure by the FBI, they threatened to place his kids into foster care. That was legal. Guess what, similar things would be legal in France. We all forget that money is nice, but nation states have real power. Western liberal democracies just rarely use it.…

> We all forget that money is nice, but nation states have real power.

I remember something (probably linked from here), where the essayist was comparing Jack Ma, one of the richest men on earth, and Xi Jinping, a much lower-paid individual.

They indicated that Xi got Ma into a chokehold. I think he "disappeared" Ma for some time. Don't remember exactly how long, but it may have been over a year.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Elon fiddles with the algorithm to boost certain accounts. Some accounts are behind an auth wall and others are not. It’s open but not even.

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It's pretty obvious, media is called the 4th power.

Control the media, you control the information that a significant part of Europeans get. Elections aren't won by 50%, you only need to convince 4 or 5% of the population that the far right is great.

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Facebook offices should routinely raided for aiding and profitting from various scams propagated through ads on this platform.

Governments don't care about minor scams. Political speech against them, on the other hand...

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Simply because if you were to ban this type of platform you wouldn't need Musk to "move it towards the far right" because you would already be the very definition of a totalitarian regime. But whatever zombie government France is running can't "ban" X anyway because it would get them one step closer to the guillotine. Like in the UK or Germany it is a tinderbox cruising on a 10-20% approval rating. If "French prosecu…

What do you mean with "this type of platform"? Platforms that don't follow (any) national laws have been banned in multiple countries over the years.

By itself this isn't extraordinary in a democracy.

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420 is a stoner number, stoners lol a lot, thought of Elmo's failed joint smoking on JRE before I stopped watching ...but then other commenters reminded me there is another thing on the same date, which might have been more the actual troll at Elmo to get him all worked up

Well yes, if France24 was using "20 April 2026" as we write here, there would be no misunderstanding. I believe people are looking too much into 20 April → 4/20 → 420

April 20th most definitely is international stoners day. And I like what the French have done here!

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You are mistaken. Item #1 is "images of children of a pornographic nature". Wheras "CSAM isn’t pornography—it’s evidence of criminal exploitation of kids." https://rainn.org/get-informed/get-the-facts-about-sexual-vi...

Well, RAINN are stupid then. CSAM is the woke word for child pornography, which is the normal.word for pornography involving children. Pornography is defined as material aiming to sexually stimulate, and CSAM is that.

> CSAM is the woke word for child pornography

I fear you could be correct.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Honest question: What does it mean to "raid" the offices of a tech company? It's not like they have file cabinets with paper records. Are they just seizing employee workstations? Seems like you'd want to subpoena source code or gmail history or something like that. Not much interesting in an office these days.

I read somewhere that Musk (or maybe Theil) companies have processes in place to quickly offload data from a location to other jurisdictions (and destroy the local data) when they detect a raid happening. Don't know how true it is though. The only insight I have into their operations was the amazing speed by which people are badged in and out of his various gigafactories. It "appears" that they developed custom badgi…

That is very much illegal in the US
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