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This is not hype-chasing. AI is a key part of software engineering now. For this to be absent from Xcode would be an existential risk for the future of the product.
> AI is a key part of software engineering now. It most certainly is not, lol. That's the hype that the parent was referring to. Most people have found AI to be a detriment, not a benefit, to their work.
"visually by capturing Xcode Previews" is probably the thing that will make this worthwhile, also if it's able to interact with the simulator that would be killer. Beyond that, I'd just keep using Claude Code in the terminal.
It doesn't interact with sim. You still need XcodeBuildMCP for that. Hopefully future releases implement this functionality.
Or Axiom (https://charleswiltgen.github.io/Axiom/), which should now work great from within Xcode since Apple's using Claude Code SDK.
"Developers get the full power of Claude Code directly in Xcode—including subagents, background tasks, and plugins—all without leaving the IDE." — https://www.anthropic.com/news/apple-xcode-claude-agent-sdk
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So you're still in the anger phase?
What does that mean?
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For a certain-size project it really is not. Single files in our codebase already blow the Copilot query token limit. Great, Anthropic taught Claude to grep. On our project, it's still useless because it can't use the semantic search in the IDE.
> Single files in our codebase already blow the Copilot query token limit. This tells more about your code quality that about copilot, and I'm not a fan of copilot
Sure, it's a dumpster fire. But human engineers work on it just fine without investing man-decades into refactoring it into some shrine to the software engineer's craft.
The whole point of AI, in our parent company's eyes, is for no one to mention "code quality" as something impeding the delivery of features, yesterday, ever.
Thanks Apple, but "agentic coding" was already very possible without Xcode supporting it natively. Always gotta get your OKRs, I guess.
Building castles in the sky while the foundation is rotting away :/ Xcode really needs a couple of years of pure bugfix and optimization releases instead of hype-chasing.
It's not even rotting away. It was never completed.
It's XCode 26, and you still can't have the navigator and tabs work like in all other software on all other operation system, also including MacOS.
It's absolutely bonkers, and one of the reason's I decided to use Emacs if possible when working on "XCode projects".
XCode is good for project-reconfiguration and step-by-step debugging, but as an editor it's absolutely unusable.
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Is this bait? XCode has been a mainstay of iOS development ever since iOS was introduced and is a successor to Interface Builder on the Mac. Why wouldn’t engineers prefer tools they’ve been using (mostly happily) for a decade+?
>Is this bait? I don't think it's a serious question or the person is very young. To answer the question. Xcode is the default IDE for iOS development. The default option will always be a practical choice. JetBrains or Anthropic could get bought by a larger company or dismantled by the government somehow. Should anything happen to Apple (unlikely as that may seem) the entire iOS ecosystem would be gone as well negati…
My annoyance is that it sounds like I can't just use Claude Code directly in XCode? I like how Zed does it, it's not perfect, but it works really nicely.
¹ https://www.anthropic.com/news/apple-xcode-claude-agent-sdk ² https://charleswiltgen.github.io/Axiom/
Building castles in the sky while the foundation is rotting away :/ Xcode really needs a couple of years of pure bugfix and optimization releases instead of hype-chasing.
Honest question. I've been using XCode for 10 years. For me, it's only improved and I don't have any real pain points. They are definitely fixing bugs. I make software for iOS, macOS, car play, and apple watch. Sure sometimes I've got to reset or clear a cache, but this has never stopped my day. What is so horrible about XCode?
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> I've been using XCode for 10 years. For me, it's only improved and I don't have any real pain points. This means you've learned to work around its shortcomings. A decade ago I used to develop in PyCharm for websites, and Visual Studio .Net for desktop apps. Then I had to learn XCode for a mobile app. It was a surreal experience, like going back ten years in UX, while at the same time dealing with a myriad of modern…
Honestly, that just sounds like it does things in an unfamiliar (to you) way. That's the flip side of the coin "This means you've learned to work around its shortcomings". There is no perfect IDE. They all have problems / are inadequate / get in the way. I absolutely loathe IntelliJ IDEA for example, and think Eclipse is needlessly complex (though I'd like their code-indentation/formatting UI to replace the one in Xc…