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If I was your cloud provider, I'd never let you down

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Re: If I was your cloud provider, I'd never let you down

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Yes. You are responsible for replication, failover, disaster recovery, etc.

Then what is this 'infrastructure' that they're providing you with?

The option to build a full stack with LBs, Databases, Webservers and everything else, without spending millions in hardware that is perhaps running on 50% of it's actual capacity.

Re: If I was your cloud provider, I'd never let you down

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Because that is a very poor solution to most problems in the world.

As much as I hate to admit it, the threat of a lawsuit seems to be helpful in keeping many people and corporations in line.

Most people tend a very negative view towards suing. Personally, when you're in the right and have a strong case, as the above seems to have, it works beautifully.

I've had the written threat to sue work, as well as the actual suing. It's not as expensive, or time consuming, as you think and is the primary method of contract enforcement. It's also kinda fun and an interesting intellectual experience.

Re: If I was your cloud provider, I'd never let you down

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With the lifetime account fiasco still ongoing [1], they should probably shut up. [1] Joyent/Textdrive sold lifetime shared hosting accounts for a one time payment in the beginning. Those accounts would exist "as long as we exists". A couple of months back they sent an email that they are "discontinuing" lifetime accounts. After uproar from the community they offered refunds. Many people (including me) agreed to the…

Red herring. Besides, as far as I understand, Textdrive is in the process of being relaunched, honoring all the lifetime plans.

> Red herring.

Here is a company with a history of making tall claims and then doing an 180. How is pointing that out a red herring?

> Besides, as far as I understand, Textdrive is in the process of being relaunched, honoring all the lifetime plans.

From what I know of the story, if they do honor lifetime plans, it isn't out of the goodness of their hearts. They had every intention of flipping the lifetime planholders, and they did, and what they are doing now is damage control.

Re: If I was your cloud provider, I'd never let you down

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With the lifetime account fiasco still ongoing [1], they should probably shut up. [1] Joyent/Textdrive sold lifetime shared hosting accounts for a one time payment in the beginning. Those accounts would exist "as long as we exists". A couple of months back they sent an email that they are "discontinuing" lifetime accounts. After uproar from the community they offered refunds. Many people (including me) agreed to the…

"lifetime" "unlimited" "forever" etc products should always been looked at sceptically for that reason. Anything that is either finite or requires up-keep cannot be offered on these terms, it is just impossible. I actually avoid unlimited products on purpose because I think a lie is a bad way to start doing business together. Be it web-hosting, broadband, or anything else. I would prefer they just be up front and the…

> "lifetime" "unlimited" "forever" etc products should always been looked at sceptically for that reason. Anything that is either finite or requires up-keep cannot be offered on these terms, it is just impossible.

When a company is offering "lifetime", "unlimited", "forever" et al, the most likely reason is it is cash strapped and is hoping to raise some cash with these lucrative schemes. I, as a customer, am well aware about "no free lunches" but we are entering an agreement when I buy your supposedly "lifetime" plan. When you do an 180 later because the initial money you got from me isn't enough to keep me running forever, it isn't something unplanned that happened to you. You always knew that. It's just that you are hell bent on screwing me.

Re: If I was your cloud provider, I'd never let you down

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post #47

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> curl http://joyent.com/ curl: (7) couldn't connect to host Doesn't look like an SSL issue... Tracing the route to joyent.com (165.225.132.33) [...] 8 * * * 9 65.125.14.38 [AS 209] 312 msec 316 msec 308 msec 10 command timed-out

All I know is I get a time-out when connecting to joyent with https-everywhere running, and a normal webpage when it's disabled!

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/joylent.com

  It's not just you! http://joylent.com looks down from here.
edit: 11:12 UTC it's back up again.

Re: If I was your cloud provider, I'd never let you down

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post #34

With the lifetime account fiasco still ongoing [1], they should probably shut up. [1] Joyent/Textdrive sold lifetime shared hosting accounts for a one time payment in the beginning. Those accounts would exist "as long as we exists". A couple of months back they sent an email that they are "discontinuing" lifetime accounts. After uproar from the community they offered refunds. Many people (including me) agreed to the…

Why not sue them?

As far as I understand one would have to sue in small claims court in California to get anything out of it. Since I'm in Europe, it unfortunately is not a cost-effective option. (I think I paid ~500$ for the original plan, so it's cheaper to write it off)
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