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Re: Qwen3-Coder-Next

#21

We are getting there, as a next step please release something to outperform Opus 4.5 and GPT 5.2 in coding tasks

By the time that happens, Opus 5 and GPT-5.5 will be out. At that point will a GPT-5.2 tier open-weights model feel "good enough"? Based on my experience with frontier models, once you get a taste of the latest and greatest it's very hard to go back to a less capable model, even if that less capable model would have been SOTA 9 months ago.

Re: Qwen3-Coder-Next

#22

For those interested, made some Dynamic Unsloth GGUFs for local deployment at https://huggingface.co/unsloth/Qwen3-Coder-Next-GGUF and made a guide on using Claude Code / Codex locally: https://unsloth.ai/docs/models/qwen3-coder-next

How did you do it so fast?

Great work as always btw!

Re: Qwen3-Coder-Next

#23
It’s hard to elaborate just how wild this model might be if it performs as claimed. The claims are this can perform close to Sonnet 4.5 for assisted coding (SWE bench) while using only 3B active parameters. This is obscenely small for the claimed performance.

Re: Qwen3-Coder-Next

#24
Is this going to need 1x or 2x of those RTX PRO 6000s to allow for a decent KV for an active context length of 64-100k?

It's one thing running the model without any context, but coding agents build it up close to the max and that slows down generation massively in my experience.

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#25
The agent orchestration point from vessenes is interesting - using faster, smaller models for routine tasks while reserving frontier models for complex reasoning.

In practice, I've found the economics work like this:

1. Code generation (boilerplate, tests, migrations) - smaller models are fine, and latency matters more than peak capability 2. Architecture decisions, debugging subtle issues - worth the cost of frontier models 3. Refactoring existing code - the model needs to "understand" before changing, so context and reasoning matter more

The 3B active parameters claim is the key unlock here. If this actually runs well on consumer hardware with reasonable context windows, it becomes the obvious choice for category 1 tasks. The question is whether the SWE-Bench numbers hold up for real-world "agent turn" scenarios where you're doing hundreds of small operations.

Re: Qwen3-Coder-Next

#26

We are getting there, as a next step please release something to outperform Opus 4.5 and GPT 5.2 in coding tasks

By the time that happens, Opus 5 and GPT-5.5 will be out. At that point will a GPT-5.2 tier open-weights model feel "good enough"? Based on my experience with frontier models, once you get a taste of the latest and greatest it's very hard to go back to a less capable model, even if that less capable model would have been SOTA 9 months ago.

It feels like the gap between open weight and closed weight models is closing though.

Re: Qwen3-Coder-Next

#27

The agent orchestration point from vessenes is interesting - using faster, smaller models for routine tasks while reserving frontier models for complex reasoning. In practice, I've found the economics work like this: 1. Code generation (boilerplate, tests, migrations) - smaller models are fine, and latency matters more than peak capability 2. Architecture decisions, debugging subtle issues - worth the cost of frontie…

I find it really surprising that you’re fine with low end models for coding - I went through a lot of open-weights models, local and "local", and I consistently found the results underwhelming. The glm-4.7 was the smallest model I found to be somewhat reliable, but that’s a sizable 350b and stretches the definition of local-as-in-at-home.

Re: Qwen3-Coder-Next

#28

It’s hard to elaborate just how wild this model might be if it performs as claimed. The claims are this can perform close to Sonnet 4.5 for assisted coding (SWE bench) while using only 3B active parameters. This is obscenely small for the claimed performance.

If it sounds too good to be true…

Re: Qwen3-Coder-Next

#29
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This GGUF is 48.4GB - https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3-Coder-Next-GGUF/tree/main/... - which should be usable on higher end laptops. I still haven't experienced a local model that fits on my 64GB MacBook Pro and can run a coding agent like Codex CLI or Claude code well enough to be useful. Maybe this will be the one? This Unsloth guide from a sibling comment suggests it might be: https://unsloth.ai/docs/models/qwen3…

> I still haven't experienced a local model that fits on my 64GB MacBook Pro and can run a coding agent like Codex CLI or Claude code well enough to be useful I've had mild success with GPT-OSS-120b (MXFP4, ends up taking ~66GB of VRAM for me with llama.cpp) and Codex. I'm wondering if maybe one could crowdsource chat logs for GPT-OSS-120b running with Codex, then seed another post-training run to fine-tune the 20b v…

I’ve a 128GB m3 max MacBook Pro. Running the gpt oss model on it via lmstudio once the context gets large enough the fans spin to 100 and it’s unbearable.

Re: Qwen3-Coder-Next

#30

We are getting there, as a next step please release something to outperform Opus 4.5 and GPT 5.2 in coding tasks

By the time that happens, Opus 5 and GPT-5.5 will be out. At that point will a GPT-5.2 tier open-weights model feel "good enough"? Based on my experience with frontier models, once you get a taste of the latest and greatest it's very hard to go back to a less capable model, even if that less capable model would have been SOTA 9 months ago.

I think it depends on what you use it for. Coding, where time is money? You probably want the Good Shit, but also want decent open weights models to keep prices sane rather than sama’s 20k/month nonsense. Something like a basic sentiment analysis? You can get good results out of a 30b MoE that runs at good pace on a midrange laptop. Researching things online with many sources and decent results I’d expect to be doable locally by the end of 2026 if you have 128GB ram, although it’ll take a while to resolve.
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