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Spain to ban social media access for under-16s, PM Sanchez says

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Re: Spain to ban social media access for under-16s, PM Sanchez says

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Post by lnsru »

circuit10 wrote: post #4

I worry that these measures (if they actually work, which is unlikely) will isolate people who struggle with real-life interactions. I remember reading somewhere that autistic people tend to find community in online spaces, and it seems like a lot of people gain their tech skills that way, including me. So indiscriminately banning young people from these spaces will prevent them from finding community and people like…

What real life interactions? With scammers, bots or troll farms? Facebook from first years is long gone. I am pretty sure that autistic people as easy target should be kept away from internet for their own good. There is nothing good to find there.

Re: Spain to ban social media access for under-16s, PM Sanchez says

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Post by lava_pidgeon »

pjc50 wrote: post #10

This is really globally coordinated, isn't it? I'm just not sure why now and not previously. Is it just that Twitter went over the toxicity threshold that everyone noticed?

why is it globally coordinated? Maybe just bunch of politicians find the idea appealing after Australia implemented it?

Re: Spain to ban social media access for under-16s, PM Sanchez says

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Post by wronex »

rimbo789 wrote: post #2

Great. About 10 years too late but better than nothing. Hope it becomes the global norm. Once that’s done we should ban the over the 65+.

I think the opposite is in order. Ban phones with screens for those over 18 (driving limit). Phones are a drug that people cannot seem to let go off. Even when driving. Kids don’t have cars. Perhaps a trade? A phone or a car?

Re: Spain to ban social media access for under-16s, PM Sanchez says

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Post by chrisjj »

dist-epoch wrote: post #5
rimbo789 wrote: post #2

Great. About 10 years too late but better than nothing. Hope it becomes the global norm. Once that’s done we should ban the over the 65+.

Yeah. We need to introduce social-media literacy tests that certify that you are capable of being a good valuable citizen on social media instead of a disinformation sharer and slop consumer.

> We need to introduce social-media literacy tests that certify that you are capable of being a good valuable citizen on social media instead of a propaganda sharer and slop consumer.

... and force it first on Zuckerberg, Musk ... and Trump.

Re: Spain to ban social media access for under-16s, PM Sanchez says

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Post by energy123 »

rimbo789 wrote: post #2

Great. About 10 years too late but better than nothing. Hope it becomes the global norm. Once that’s done we should ban the over the 65+.

I want to see regulation of the algorithm. Something like forcing a chronological feed, or somehow nerfing the recommendation engine. Figure out a way to make it boring, bypass the whole censorship debate.

Re: Spain to ban social media access for under-16s, PM Sanchez says

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Post by arrrg »

budududuroiu wrote: post #3

So... de-facto mass deanonymisation of all Spanish social media users? I see a lot of supporters of these policies either not acknowledge that you can't identify under-16yo without identifying over-16yos.

Age verification is possible without revealing personally identifiable information (beyond old enough yes/no, which is not in any way personally identifiable info) and from my perspective should be a strict requirement with any such laws.

In fact, if these laws make the requisite infrastructure (ID cards that offer that functionality) a hard requirement then creating an anonymous web that nevertheless has age checks easier, not harder.

What you basically want is an ID card where you as the owner can decide what you want to share with the private business. And for age verification that’s basically just requirement fulfilled yes/no.

So if the law is well written then this could be an advantage, not a disadvantage. Preemptive cynicism isn’t helpful here.

Re: Spain to ban social media access for under-16s, PM Sanchez says

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Post by jacquesm »

rimbo789 wrote: post #2

Great. About 10 years too late but better than nothing. Hope it becomes the global norm. Once that’s done we should ban the over the 65+.

Oh no! But yes, you are right, the elderly are very susceptible to really bad social media influence.

Drawing that to its ultimate conclusion: people are very susceptible to being influenced and social media may well turn out to be a net negative.

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