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It's hilarious how transparent a money grab this entire thing is. "You need to show a Real ID for security, otherwise how do we know you won't hijack the plane?" "Well I don't have a Real ID." "Ok then, give us $45 and you can go through." So it was never about security at all then, was it? And don't get me started with all the paid express security lanes. Because of course only poor people can weaponize shoes and la…
Real ID is/was needed because every state has different requirements to get one. The whole debate is hilarious, you need one or two extra documents to get RealID. The exact same amount of time and trips to DMV.
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$45 x millions of people (some multiple times) = an incredibly consequential amount of money
Assuming 100M "classic" ID checks (being generous): congrats, you just paid for two days of running the military!
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RealID licenses cost extra where I live. Your job can buy you a plane ticket but they can't get you through TSA.
> RealID licenses cost extra where I live. Where is that? I’m curious. Around here, RealID is just what you’re issued when you renew various forms of ID. I don’t even recall an option to get a non-RealID version.
I've flown without ID twice. Once because I lost my ID, once to prove to a friend that it could be done. This fee will fail for the same reason that flying without ID works at all - the law is quite clear on it.
Did you have to show the airline your ID when checking in? As far as I can tell, the TSA is one thing, while airline policy is another. The law says it’s not required for security, but airlines might be justified in carrying out their own policies? Honestly curious.
I've flown without ID twice. Once because I lost my ID, once to prove to a friend that it could be done. This fee will fail for the same reason that flying without ID works at all - the law is quite clear on it.
So when TSA asked for your ID, what did you do and what did they then do?
Saying that there is “no legal requirement to show an ID” is truthy but misleading. Federal law gives the TSA authority over “screening” passengers: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/49/44901 (“The Administrator of the Transportation Security Administration shall provide for the screening of all passengers and property, including United States mail, cargo, carry-on and checked baggage, and other articles, that…
How can it be legally considered screening if you can pay $45 to bypass it entirely?
It's hilarious how transparent a money grab this entire thing is. "You need to show a Real ID for security, otherwise how do we know you won't hijack the plane?" "Well I don't have a Real ID." "Ok then, give us $45 and you can go through." So it was never about security at all then, was it? And don't get me started with all the paid express security lanes. Because of course only poor people can weaponize shoes and la…
Let me just for one second give them the benefit of the doubt. Could the $45 be a way to pay for some extra manual screening? Maybe? Or do they not deserve any benefit of the doubt.
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RealID licenses cost extra where I live. Your job can buy you a plane ticket but they can't get you through TSA.
If your job wants you to fly, it should buy you an id that lets you fly. Have you never applied for a visa to travel on a business trip?
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Flying without ID just gets you the full patdown treatment. It’s not like they’re tracking down people to vouch for you.
I don't know what you mean by "full patdown treatment", but they're absolutely tracking down your information in databases and interviewing you about it. See replies to: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46864182 It's absolutely not just enhanced physical screening.