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Is "week long battery life" really a killer feature? As long as a phone has enough battery to make it through the 16 hours per day most of us are awake, anything more is just gold plating. Just how big is the "week long battery life" niche?

I could this being big with the homeless...

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I'm still waiting on my Raspberry Pi (if it ever gets here, I've been waiting 6 months) with the dreams of turning it into a small, Radio Shack-style Vim machine. Building a case with a keyboard, a small display screen, a command line, and a huge battery. When it's connected to the Internet, it would push the changes up, but when it's not it would cache it locally. Sometimes I like to go camping while I work, for the…

I have similar dreams but then a battery powered emacs machine. As a homebrew Raspberry Pi powered device will probably needs more power then a hacked phone running linux I'll opt for the latter. If only such a phone had a vizplex e-ink display! There is a PocketBook which supports a bluetooth keyboard, also a nice option.

A hacked phone might need less power, but it's also smaller, which means a smaller battery. My phone gets 10 hours of battery life in constant use, and my laptop gets 10 hours of battery life in constant use. Obviously the laptop has a much, much larger battery, and sits in a much, much larger footprint. Imagine phone-grade hardware with a laptop-sized battery.

I'm not criticizing your version of the dream. That's the beauty of open technology, everyone can have their own dream and see that it becomes reality with a little bit of work. What I was thinking of would be about netbook sized with the majority of it being battery. Full sized keyboard mounted in, console-sized display, leaving a huge empty space inside. Without having it in my hands to actually judge battery use, all I can do is dream of a 30-hour battery on a black-and-white, unbacklit display powered by a full sized keyboard.

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I dream of one day when someone will make a minimalist phone that meets my needs. The perfect phone for me would be this: - Can make and receive calls and texts. - Has a phone book (just a name/number key-value pair). - Has a clock and timer/alarm. - NO OTHER SOFTWARE FEATURES. Nothing extra other than calls, texts, phone book, time. - Small e-ink display. - Simple T9 keypad. - Rugged construction, should be able to…

one day when someone will make a minimalist phone that meets my needs

That day was circa 2000 and the phone was the Nokia 5150 (didn't have e-ink, but the display was fine).

I had one - was a good phone. I'm glad times have moved on though.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Fone EDIT: I see you beat me to the punch.

Hm. Motorola Fone was released in 2006. No successors since?

I have one. It's pretty good. Well, it's what it says on the tin, anyway. I never use it.

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I dream of one day when someone will make a minimalist phone that meets my needs. The perfect phone for me would be this: - Can make and receive calls and texts. - Has a phone book (just a name/number key-value pair). - Has a clock and timer/alarm. - NO OTHER SOFTWARE FEATURES. Nothing extra other than calls, texts, phone book, time. - Small e-ink display. - Simple T9 keypad. - Rugged construction, should be able to…

You need what's called a senior phone or old person phone, which is a huge market in China, but somewhat limited in the US. Huge keypad, small black and white screen, long battery life, and few features.

I have seen two of these in Germany and was disappointed. They have all the obvious things - bigger keys, bigger numbers on the display - but none of the perfection that is expected from a mainstream smartphone these days.

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I dream of one day when someone will make a minimalist phone that meets my needs. The perfect phone for me would be this: - Can make and receive calls and texts. - Has a phone book (just a name/number key-value pair). - Has a clock and timer/alarm. - NO OTHER SOFTWARE FEATURES. Nothing extra other than calls, texts, phone book, time. - Small e-ink display. - Simple T9 keypad. - Rugged construction, should be able to…

What is wrong with a classic nokia phone? The battery life is easily a week on some of them and other than the e-ink they basically have all of these features.

They're pretty nice, but I'd like something thinner and more stylish (not the most critical attribute but it's a big plus).

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It could be useful in India or African countries with not much access to energy. But I doubt people from developed nations would want this. It most likely offers nowhere near the experience of an LCD device. Remember, besides the lack of color issue, e-ink devices work best when the on-screen image is static, and not changing often.

I had a knee-jerk reaction to this:

>It could be useful in India or African countries with not much access to energy.

It's appalling that countries located in regions where the sun tends to beat down most of the time lack energy at all.

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I dream of one day when someone will make a minimalist phone that meets my needs. The perfect phone for me would be this: - Can make and receive calls and texts. - Has a phone book (just a name/number key-value pair). - Has a clock and timer/alarm. - NO OTHER SOFTWARE FEATURES. Nothing extra other than calls, texts, phone book, time. - Small e-ink display. - Simple T9 keypad. - Rugged construction, should be able to…

On the upside, we are now in the age when someone can build their own cell phone.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/26/2976703/mit-high-low-tech-...

So, maybe take on a project to create the phone you want.

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I dream of one day when someone will make a minimalist phone that meets my needs. The perfect phone for me would be this: - Can make and receive calls and texts. - Has a phone book (just a name/number key-value pair). - Has a clock and timer/alarm. - NO OTHER SOFTWARE FEATURES. Nothing extra other than calls, texts, phone book, time. - Small e-ink display. - Simple T9 keypad. - Rugged construction, should be able to…

As an owner of the Motorola F3 I can tell you that it suffers from severe battery drain. Doesn't make any sense, but there you have it.

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It could be useful in India or African countries with not much access to energy. But I doubt people from developed nations would want this. It most likely offers nowhere near the experience of an LCD device. Remember, besides the lack of color issue, e-ink devices work best when the on-screen image is static, and not changing often.

This is a controller-chip issue, not intrinsic to the display technology. http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/05/i-wish-my-nooks-e-ink-disp... E-Ink was done a great dis-service by the scanning-refresh chips that came out with the display. Simultaneous-refresh is how any reasonable display device does it.

Wow...!

So... the entire perception of e-ink as being slow/flaky is because of the controller chip used to drive it?!

That's ... man....

Are the faster electronics too power-hungry to use in a device like an e-book that's very focused on extremely long battery life?

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