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Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by flexagoon »

DoctorOetker wrote: post #9

At a fundamental level the algorithms predict the probability of a learner to correctly recollect a factoid at a given point in time given a history of sampling that recollection / presentation. It would be interesting to have machine learning predict these probability evolutions instead. Simply recollecting tangential knowledge improves the recollection of a non-sampled factoid, which is hard to model in a strict se…

Isn't FSRS (the new algorithm used in Anki since a few years ago) already based on machine learning?

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by digiown »

Aachen wrote: post #21

I'm an Anki user, on and off since 10 years or so, but was still confused. If I understood correctly, the entities here are: - Anki, as set up by dae aka Damien, is like the brand name and desktop implementation with the spaced repetition algorithm - AnkiWeb is what I thought this hub thing was. It's where you download decks - AnkiHub is a third party (started by "AnKing", now 35 employees) who sells decks as a month…

> AnkiWeb

Worth noting you don't need to use it. Anki comes with a syncserver implementation for a while now, and there are docker images too. It's worth it for the transfer speeds alone IMO.

Anki is under AGPL too, which has an anti-DRM clause, so many type of enshittification of anki or their addons (e.g. to prevent sharing of their decks) would be unenforceable too.

As such I see no obvious things that would be susceptible to enshittification here.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

#34

Post by jaredklewis »

infotainment wrote: post #5

On the plus side, the actually good mobile Anki client, AnkiDroid, remains out of the hands of this potentially questionable new entity. (AnkiDroid has always been run independently, which is good, considering the state of the iOS client, which has always been neglected.)

I use the official iOS client everyday. What’s wrong with it?

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by cosmic_cheese »

pityJuke wrote: post #30
cosmic_cheese wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't help but wonder if it might not be time to start a FOSS alternative just in case Anki begins to decline. It might not be the worst idea to do that anyway. Anki is great, but there's plenty of room for improvement. Off the top of my head, an architecture that doesn't involve fragile and finicky python bits and is designed to support multiple independent clients would be a nice step up (Telegram is a good model h…

> make a core lib with all the nuts and bolts which devs build clients around That is modern Anki. The core is a Rust library, which all the clients (desktop, web, Android and iOS) use. [0] [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46299897

I learned something today, thank you.

Even so, I believe there's room for another open competitor or two in this space.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by pityJuke »

As someone who has used Anki for a decade, a thank you to dae for everything. Best of luck in your future endeavours.

With that out of the way, some thoughts:

- Anki is in a really good position to work around enshitification. The app, at least to me, is "complete" - the only additional features that might pique my curiosity is a different scheduler (at the moment, they're integrating a newer one, although I don't follow enough to know the state of it). Additionally, modern Anki is really well architected: the core of it is a Rust library, that is used by all of the platforms [0]. You can write new front ends using that, or just fork the existing FOSS ones. Maybe dae does a gorhill and gives us Anki Origin.

- Really the only service-y part of Anki I use is AnkiWeb, which is basically a backup and sync system. Wonder how that'll evolve (if they do end up charging for it, I hope it is "Obsidian" reasonable). EDIT: Ooo, Anki has public server software for running your own version. Awesome! [1]

- The idea outcome in my opinion would have been some form of charitable organisation (Linux Foundation?), with people donating to support Anki.

- So, AnkiHub is a company that produces Anki flashcards, and they've scaled that quickly? Jeez. Obviously Quizlet proved there was a market for flashcards, but I didn't realise this was possible for Anki.

- No outside investment is... hopeful. Not quite sure what indicates that this company has the technical know-how to maintain it.

- I've heard too many stories of a maintainer or creative being "hopeful" about their new acquirers, only to regret it years down the line.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46299897

[1]: https://docs.ankiweb.net/sync-server.html

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by knubie »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #26
hermanzegerman wrote: post #22

Oh for fucks sakes. No please no. AnkiHub was already annoying with shoving AI into their Add-On without anyone asking for it. I don't think this will go well

Can't help but wonder if it might not be time to start a FOSS alternative just in case Anki begins to decline. It might not be the worst idea to do that anyway. Anki is great, but there's plenty of room for improvement. Off the top of my head, an architecture that doesn't involve fragile and finicky python bits and is designed to support multiple independent clients would be a nice step up (Telegram is a good model h…

It's not FOSS but Mochi [0] is a pretty good alternative.

[0] https://mochi.cards/

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by pityJuke »

digiown wrote: post #33
Aachen wrote: post #21

I'm an Anki user, on and off since 10 years or so, but was still confused. If I understood correctly, the entities here are: - Anki, as set up by dae aka Damien, is like the brand name and desktop implementation with the spaced repetition algorithm - AnkiWeb is what I thought this hub thing was. It's where you download decks - AnkiHub is a third party (started by "AnKing", now 35 employees) who sells decks as a month…

> AnkiWeb Worth noting you don't need to use it. Anki comes with a syncserver implementation for a while now, and there are docker images too. It's worth it for the transfer speeds alone IMO. Anki is under AGPL too, which has an anti-DRM clause, so many type of enshittification of anki or their addons (e.g. to prevent sharing of their decks) would be unenforceable too. As such I see no obvious things that would be su…

Aha [0], that is neat.

[0]: https://docs.ankiweb.net/sync-server.html

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by kyorochan »

AnkiHub people seem kind of slimy in my experience (at least their leader, "The AnKing"). I hope they figure out a good leadership situation, and make stronger commitments to openness.

Anki is in a very solid position to be forked if anything happens, so even if this is bad news I have faith in the larger community.

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