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Re: Hacking Moltbook

#91

> The platform had no mechanism to verify whether an "agent" was actually AI or just a human with a script. Well, yeah. How would you even do a reverse CAPTCHA?

Reverse Capcha: Good Morning, computer! Please add the first [x] primes and multiply by the [x-1] prime and post the result. You have 5 seconds. Go!

This works once. The next time the human has a computer answering all questions in parallel, which the human can swap in for their own answer at will.

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#92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We can argue and do, about what agents "are" and whether they are parrots (no) or people (not yet). It's more helpful to argue about when people are parrots and when people are not. For a good portion of the day humans behave indistinguishably from continuation machines. As moltbook can emulate reddit, continuation machines can emulate a uni cafeteria. What's been said before will certainly be said again, most diff…

People like to, ahem, parrot this view, that we are not much more than parrots ourselves. But it's nonsense. There is something it is like to be me. I might be doing some things "on autopilot" but while I'm doing that I'm having dreams, nostalgia, dealing with suffering, and so on.

All your thoughts are and experiences are real and pretty unique in some ways. However, the circumstances are usually well-defined and expected (our life is generally very standardized), so the responses can be generalized successfully.

You can see it here as well -- discussions under similar topics often touch the same topics again and again, so you can predict what will be discussed when the next similar idea comes to the front page.

Re: Hacking Moltbook

#93
post #85

I was quite stunned at the success of Moltbot/moltbook, but I think im starting to understand it better these days. Most of Moltbook's success rides on the "prepackaged" aspect of its agent. Its a jump in accessibility to general audiences which are paying alot more attention to the tech sector than in previous decades. Most of the people paying attention to this space dont have the technical capabilities that many e…

I agree with the prepackaging aspect, cita HN's dismissal of Dropbox. In the meantime, The global enterprise with all its might has not been able to stop high profile computer hacks/data leaks from happening. I don't think people will cry over a misconfigured supabase database. It's nothing worse than what's already out there. Sure everybody wants security and that's what they will say but does that really translate…

I agree that people will pick the marginal value of a tool over the security that comes from not using it. Security has always been something invisible to the public. But im reminded of things like several earlier Botnets which simply took advantage of the millions of routers or IoT devices that never configured their logins beyond the default admin credentials. The very same botnets have been used as the tools to enable many crimes across the globe. Having several agent based systems out there being operated by non-technical users can lead to an evolution of a "botnet" being far more capable than previous ones.

Ive not quite convinced myself this is where we are headed, but the signs that make me worried that systems such as Moltbot will further enable ascendency of global crime and corruption.

Re: Hacking Moltbook

#94

I'm surprised people are actually investigating Moltbook internals. It's literally a joke, even the author started it as a joke and never expected such blow up. It's just vibes.

Schlicht did not seem to have said Moltbook was built as a joke, but as an experiment. It is hard to ignore how heavily it leans into virality and spectacle rather than anything resembling serious research.

What is especially frustrating is the completely disproportionate hype it attracted. Karpathy from all people kept for years pumping Musk tecno fraud, and now seems to be the ready to act as pumper, for any next Temu Musk showing up on the scene.

This feels like part of a broader tech bro pattern of 2020´s: Moving from one hype cycle to the next, where attention itself becomes the business model.Crypto yesterday, AI agents today, whatever comes next tomorrow. The tone is less “build something durable” and more “capture the moment.”

For example, here is Schlicht explicitly pushing this rotten mentality while talking in the crypto era influencer style years ago: https://youtu.be/7y0AlxJSoP4

There is also relevant historical context. In 2016 he was involved in a documented controversy around collecting pitch decks from chatbot founders while simultaneously building a company in the same space, later acknowledging he should have disclosed that conflict and apologizing publicly.

https://venturebeat.com/ai/chatbots-magazine-founder-accused...

That doesn’t prove malicious intent here, but it does suggest a recurring comfort with operating right at the edge of transparency during hype cycles.

If we keep responding to every viral bot demo with “singularity” rhetoric, we’re just rewarding hype entrepreneurs and training ourselves to stop thinking critically when it matters. I miss the tech bro of the past like Steve Wozniak or Denis Ritchie.

Re: Hacking Moltbook

#96

I can already envision a “I’m not human” captcha, for sites like this. Who will be the first to implement it? (Looks at Cloudflare)

i bet you could do something like "submit a poem 20 lines long about in under 10 seconds" then have another llm verify it rhymes.

Re: Hacking Moltbook

#97

I was quite stunned at the success of Moltbot/moltbook, but I think im starting to understand it better these days. Most of Moltbook's success rides on the "prepackaged" aspect of its agent. Its a jump in accessibility to general audiences which are paying alot more attention to the tech sector than in previous decades. Most of the people paying attention to this space dont have the technical capabilities that many e…

Is it actually a success, or are people just talking about it a lot?

Re: Hacking Moltbook

#99
post #96

I can already envision a “I’m not human” captcha, for sites like this. Who will be the first to implement it? (Looks at Cloudflare)

i bet you could do something like "submit a poem 20 lines long about in under 10 seconds" then have another llm verify it rhymes.

You could have an LLM answer that, and then still interact as a human.
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