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Re: The Codex App

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Post by naiv »

romainhuet wrote: post #102
thefounder wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any reason to switch from vscode with codex to this app? To me it looks like this app is more for non-developers but maybe I’m missing something

Good question! VS Code is still a great place for deep, hands-on coding with the Codex IDE extension. We built the Codex app to make it easier to run and supervise multiple agents across projects, let longer-running tasks execute in parallel, and keep a higher-level view of what’s happening. Would love to hear your feedback!

ok , 'projects' but this would make a lot more sense if we could connect remotely to the projects which works without a problem using the IDE plugin, so right now I don't see any advantage of using this

Re: The Codex App

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Post by falloutx »

xGrill wrote: post #19

Is this not just a skinned version of Goose: https://block.github.io/goose/

they are all copies of each other. Did you expect them to build something completely new? Software Development is stuck in an AI hole where we only build AI features.

Re: The Codex App

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Post by layer8 »

hmate9 wrote: post #123
oompydoompy74 wrote: post #42

Looks like they forgot the part of the code editor where you can… edit code. Claude Code in Zed is about the most optimal experience I can imagine. I want the agent on the side and a code editor in the middle.

That’s not really a negative for me as I can easily jump into vscode where I already have my workspace for coding set up exactly as I like it. This being a completely separate app just to get the agentic work right is a good direction imo

It would be nice to have an integrated development environment.

Re: The Codex App

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

strongpigeon wrote: post #139
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the $20 a month subscription for ChatGPT and the $200/year subscription to Claude (company reimbursed). I have yet to hit usage limits with Codex. I continuously reach it with Claude. I use them both the same way - hands on the wheel and very interactive, small changes and tell them both to update a file to keep up with what’s done and what to do as I test. Codex gets caught in a loop more often trying to fix…

The trick to reach the usage limit is to run many agents in parallel. Not that it’s an explicit goal of mine but I keep thinking of this blog post [0] and then try to get Codex to do as much for me as possible in parallel [0]: http://theoryofconstraints.blogspot.com/2007/06/toc-stories-...

Telling a bunch of agents to do stuff is like treating it as a senior developer who you trust to take an ambiguous business requirement and letting them use their best judgment and them asking you if they have a question .

But doing that with AI feels like hiring an outsourcing firm for a project and they come back with an unmaintable mess that’s hard to reason through 5 weeks later.

I very much micro manage my AI agents and test and validate its output. I treat it like a mid level ticket taker code monkey.

Re: The Codex App

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Post by anematode »

nycdatasci wrote: post #77

The landing page for the demo game "Voxel Velocity" mentions " start" at the bottom, but actually changes selection. One would think that after 7mm tokens and use of a QA agent, they would catch something like this.

It's interesting, isn't it? On the one hand the game is quite impressive. Although it doesn't have anything particularly novel (and it shouldn't, given the prompt), it still would have taken me several days, probably a week, working nonstop. On the other hand, there's plenty of paper cuts.

I think these subtle issues are just harder to provide a "harness" for, like a compiler or rigorous test suite that lets the LLM converge toward a good (if sometimes inelegant) solution. Probably a finer-tuned QA agent would have changed the final result.

Re: The Codex App

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Post by nkohari »

zitterbewegung wrote: post #109
poolnoodle wrote: post #103

These paid offerings geared toward software development must be a hell of a lot "smarter" than the regular chatbots. The amount of nonsense and bad or outright wrong code Gemini and ChatGPT throw at me lately is off the charts. I feel like they are getting dumber.

I don’t understand why we are getting these software products that want to have vendor lock in when the underlying system isn’t being improved. I prefer Claude code right now because it’s a better product . Gemini just has a weird context window that poisons the rest of the code generated (when online) ChatGPT Codex vs Claude I feel that Claude is a better product and I don’t use enough tokens to for Claude Pro at $1…

> I don’t understand why we are getting these software products that want to have vendor lock in when the underlying system isn’t being improved.

I think it's clear now that the pace of model improvements is asymptotic (or at least it's reached a local maxima) and the model itself provides no moat. (Every few weeks last year, the perception of "the best model" changed, based on basically nothing other than random vibes and hearsay.)

As a result, the labs are starting to focus on vertical integration (that is, building up the product stack) to deepen their moat.

Re: The Codex App

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Post by prmph »

macmac_mac wrote: post #124

i've been using ai vibe coding tools since Copilot was basically spicy autocomplete, and this feels like the next obvious step: less “help me type” and more “please do this while I watch nervously.” The agent model sounds powerful, but in practice it’s still a lot of supervision, retries, and quiet hope it doesn’t hallucinate itself into a refactor I didn’t ask for.

So if the agent struggles even when you are working with it, how will it be better working alone? This is why I never let the agent work by themselves. I'm very opinionated about my code.

Does it somehow gain some superpower from being left alone?

Re: The Codex App

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Post by nkohari »

davidcann wrote: post #59
justkez wrote: post #46

Genuinely curious if people would just let this rip with no obvious isolation? I’m aware Mac OS has some isolation/sandboxes but without running codex via docker I wouldn’t be running codex. (Appreciate there are still risks)

Shameless plug, but you can sandbox codex cli without a container using my macOS app: https://multitui.com

This is a really nice tool! (Also, I love the old school animated GIFs in the site's footer.)

Re: The Codex App

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Post by [deleted] »

romainhuet wrote: post #62
vzaliva wrote: post #28

How about us, Linux users? This is Mac only. Do they plan to support CLI version with all the features they are adding to desktop app?

Hi! Romain here, I work at OpenAI. The team actually built the Codex app in Electron so we can support both Windows and Linux very soon. Stay tuned!

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