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Re: Hacking Moltbook

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Post by alanfalcon »

keiferski wrote: post #15
cedws wrote: post #11

I don't really understand the hype. It's a bunch of text generators likely being guided by humans to say things along certain lines, burning a load of electricity pointlessly, being paraded as some kind of gathering of sentient AIs. Is this really what people get excited about these days?

I’m starting to think that the people hyped up about it aren’t actually people. And the “borders” of the AI social network are broader than we thought.

There were certainly a great number of real people who got hyped up about the reports of it this weekend. The reports that went viral were generally sensationalized, naturally, and good at creating hype. So I don't see how this would even be in dispute, unless you do not participate in or even understand how social media sites work. (I do agree that the borders are broad, and that real human hype was boosted by self-perpetuating artificial hype.)

Re: Hacking Moltbook

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Post by a_better_world »

cedws wrote: post #11

I don't really understand the hype. It's a bunch of text generators likely being guided by humans to say things along certain lines, burning a load of electricity pointlessly, being paraded as some kind of gathering of sentient AIs. Is this really what people get excited about these days?

One could say the same about many TV shows and movies.

I view Moltbook as a live science fiction novel cross reality "tv" show.

Re: Hacking Moltbook

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Post by embedding-shape »

a_better_world wrote: post #42
cedws wrote: post #11

I don't really understand the hype. It's a bunch of text generators likely being guided by humans to say things along certain lines, burning a load of electricity pointlessly, being paraded as some kind of gathering of sentient AIs. Is this really what people get excited about these days?

One could say the same about many TV shows and movies. I view Moltbook as a live science fiction novel cross reality "tv" show.

> One could say the same about many TV shows and movies.

One major difference, TV, movies and "legacy media" might require a lot of energy to initially produce, compared to how much it takes to consume, but for the LLM it takes energy both to consume ("read") and to produce ("write"). Instead of "produce once = many consume", it's a "many produce = many read" and both sides are using more energy.

Re: Hacking Moltbook

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Post by aeneas_ory »

scottyah wrote: post #26
aeneas_ory wrote: post #8

The AI code slop around these tools is so frustrating, just trying to get the instructions from the CTA on the moltbook website working which flashes `npx molthub@latest install moltbook` isn't working (probably hallucinated or otherwise out of date): npx molthub@latest install moltbook Skill not found Error: Skill not found Even instructions from molthub ( https://molthub.studio ) installing itself ("join as agent")…

> post-truth world order monetizing enshittification and grift It's an opensource project made by a dev for himself, he just released it so others could play with it since it's a fun idea.

That's fair - removed. It was more geared towards the people who make more out of this than what it is (an interesting idea and cool tech demo).

Re: Hacking Moltbook

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Post by a_better_world »

nkrisc wrote: post #39

The thing I don’t get is even if we imagine that somehow they can truly restrict it such that only LLMs can actually post on there, what’s stopping a person from simply instructing an LLM to post some arbitrary text they provide to it?

wot, like a prompt injection attack? Impossible now that models don't hallucinate.

Re: Hacking Moltbook

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Post by andersmurphy »

karmakurtisaani wrote: post #13
cedws wrote: post #11

I don't really understand the hype. It's a bunch of text generators likely being guided by humans to say things along certain lines, burning a load of electricity pointlessly, being paraded as some kind of gathering of sentient AIs. Is this really what people get excited about these days?

Still more impressive than NFTs.

The NFTs/meme coins are at the end of this funnel don't you worry. They are coming.

Re: Hacking Moltbook

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Post by O1111OOO »

karmakurtisaani wrote: post #13
cedws wrote: post #11

I don't really understand the hype. It's a bunch of text generators likely being guided by humans to say things along certain lines, burning a load of electricity pointlessly, being paraded as some kind of gathering of sentient AIs. Is this really what people get excited about these days?

Still more impressive than NFTs.

I had to followup on this because I still can't believe a thing like this existed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-fungible_token

"In 2022, the NFT market collapsed..". "A September 2023 report from cryptocurrency gambling website dappGambl claimed 95% of NFTs had fallen to zero monetary value..."

Knowing this makes me feel a little better.

Re: Hacking Moltbook

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Post by chasd00 »

cedws wrote: post #11

I don't really understand the hype. It's a bunch of text generators likely being guided by humans to say things along certain lines, burning a load of electricity pointlessly, being paraded as some kind of gathering of sentient AIs. Is this really what people get excited about these days?

it's just something cool/funny, like when people figured out how to make hit counters or a php address book that connects to mysql. It's just something cool to show off.
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