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Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by observationist »

Shank wrote: post #2

> It appears this moment of pushback has resonated with internal teams: According to people familiar with Microsoft’s plans, the company is now reevaluating its AI strategy on Windows 11 and plans changes to streamline or even remove certain AI features where they don’t make sense. Obviously this is a complete failure of governance. The very first thing they should have considered was whether or not these features ma…

QA? Hardly even know 'er! Windows 11 makes Windows Vista look polished and competent.

They're not even trying anymore.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by GaryNumanVevo »

t1234s wrote: post #69

For people who work in very classified/secure environments (designing weapons systems, rev eng UFO's, etc...) does M$ offer some version of windows without all of the AI crap and bloat?

Yeah absolutely, but you'll never be able to install / license that version of Windows

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by atlasduo »

mapt wrote: post #157
kakacik wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well if its done in a dumb-as-a-fuck hostile style that whole world complaints for years , such effort and PM is utter failure and their CV should be tarnished with this for next 2 decades. And its up to us as a IT community to make it happen. They harmed massively their own company, and failed at the most core reason why they were hired - add long term value to the company. Its a bit the equivalent of architect buil…

Their shareholders did not want them to add long term value to the company. Their shareholders wanted AI.

Their shareholders never wanted AI.

Their shareholders wanted MSFT stock price to go up.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by randomfrogs »

stackghost wrote: post #193
vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is insane. Microsoft Office is probably one of the most recognizable brand names ever. Reminds me of the time when they called everything .NET.

Literally nobody on the planet is worse at naming things than Microsoft.

Apple's not great, but Microsoft is worse.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by moi2388 »

tokai wrote: post #56

Was this push for AI in Microsofts products just to get user number to go up, so investors don't pull out of the AI bubble?

I think it was just to get managers and product owners excited, so they get their companies to buy azure compute for AI.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by baal80spam »

jodrellblank wrote: post #186
direwolf20 wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tesla is also collapsing.

Musk's net worth was $300Bn in November 2024 and he ended 2025 at $726Bn. ... where is this collapse?

In the lala land. It's wishful thinking on HN.

FWIW, I don't have a skin in this game - just observing the facts.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by hedora »

GaryNumanVevo wrote: post #197
jpmattia wrote: post #184

Great. Let us hope that support for hardware without TPM is next. Creating several mountains worth of electronic waste was a terrible decision. And in the middle of the AI-induced memory shortage! Although I have to admit: The combination of AI and required new hardware has been a nice boost for switching to Linux.

Motherboards have had TPM support (built-in/exteral) since like 2017. Are there a bunch of models that don't support a plug-in TPM? I guess the BIOS would probably be the next issue.

The only thing my 2010 desktop can’t do well is run a local LLM.

It can even run diffusion models. I spent a few hundred on a video card for it during the pandemic.

Why should I want to add a TPM to it (assuming it’s even possible)?

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by ActionHank »

protoster wrote: post #168
ActionHank wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently started a new role and have to use Windows for work. I am seriously thinking of looking for another role because it is such a HOG.

I'm in the same boat, have to use Windows at work. In addition to whatver MS is doing, every workstation is encumbered with various EDR and antivirus software.

Throw in some docker workloads and it's a party.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by hedora »

markus_zhang wrote: post #98

As a side topic, I wish we still had something like Windows 3.1/95/98, that has a touch of personal usage (focuses on multimedia/gaming instead of business/server). Do you still remember Microsoft Home? My first Windows gaming experience, other than Minesweeper and Solitaire ofc, was the Fury3 demo, which contains only one level from the licensed game, on a Windows 95 Home Entertainment CD. There were also Encarta an…

Our recent computers all came with a copy of Win11 that never made it past the setup flow.

However, they regularly run win 3.11 under “dosbox staging”, which is a greatly improved, but poorly named fork of dosbox.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by AndroidKitKat »

t1234s wrote: post #69

For people who work in very classified/secure environments (designing weapons systems, rev eng UFO's, etc...) does M$ offer some version of windows without all of the AI crap and bloat?

The latest Windows 11 Pro for Workstations builds appears to still support workgroup or domain joins without requiring a Microsoft account. In terms of the OS still shipping with crap, it is still there but since there's no Internet connection the crap is largely useless.
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