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Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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The thing that bothers me the most about this is that I actually have faith in the people actually developing Windows. I'm not at all aurprised that they are rebelling against stupid non-features. But that rebelling doesn't amount to anything, since managers and decrees from the top funnel all effort into the most user-hostile results possible. If MS rehires their QA teams and listen to the people on the ground, I'd…

Lions led by donkeys, geniuses led by pointy haired bosses.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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post #2

> It appears this moment of pushback has resonated with internal teams: According to people familiar with Microsoft’s plans, the company is now reevaluating its AI strategy on Windows 11 and plans changes to streamline or even remove certain AI features where they don’t make sense. Obviously this is a complete failure of governance. The very first thing they should have considered was whether or not these features ma…

>Taste comes from knowing what not to build. Jobs was correct when he said that Microsoft has no taste.

Apple has now joined them in that, though.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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post #2

> It appears this moment of pushback has resonated with internal teams: According to people familiar with Microsoft’s plans, the company is now reevaluating its AI strategy on Windows 11 and plans changes to streamline or even remove certain AI features where they don’t make sense. Obviously this is a complete failure of governance. The very first thing they should have considered was whether or not these features ma…

> Obviously this is a complete failure of governance. How so? The forced feeding of AI is what Satya called for.

He's at the top of the governance

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

#154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with windows is not the kernel, as it is preety solid, but user space. Wathever problems windows have today, retro compatibility was always a strong point in favor of windows. Breaking it with such a change in the kernel, would make most of its users even bitter than they are today.

Windows NT is indeed a pretty solid technical foundation. But I wouldn't put it past Microsoft to destroy that in a push to use AI for ongoing development. Perhaps the kernel team will have enough political sway to avoid that outcome. We'll see.

NTATSTATUS NTBuyTokens(HANDLE hCopilot, DWORD_PTR dwNumTokens, DQWORD dwCreditCardNum);

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

#155
post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Office brand is literally gone, they renamed it to "Microsoft Copilot 365 app". Check https://office.com

The only mention of the word 'Office' on that page is 'The Microsoft Office app is now Microsoft 365 Copilot' It is really sad to see MS kill such a behemoth brand for nothing.

The last lines on the page are a FAQ -- "You can find your favorite apps [...] under the Apps section in the left navigation of the Microsoft 365 Copilot web app."

Wow

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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post #30
post #2

> It appears this moment of pushback has resonated with internal teams: According to people familiar with Microsoft’s plans, the company is now reevaluating its AI strategy on Windows 11 and plans changes to streamline or even remove certain AI features where they don’t make sense. Obviously this is a complete failure of governance. The very first thing they should have considered was whether or not these features ma…

But, but, what about those managers? What they are working on? Making explorer better? or AI AI AI?

Yes, Explorer is better now- it's preloaded to mask how bad it is

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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post #87
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The PMs are completely asleep at the wheel or, everyone has career aspirations for which they need to demonstrate impact, relevance and in shipping products. Since the current hype is AI, making and being part of the AI hype means career advancement (at the time).

Well if its done in a dumb-as-a-fuck hostile style that whole world complaints for years , such effort and PM is utter failure and their CV should be tarnished with this for next 2 decades. And its up to us as a IT community to make it happen. They harmed massively their own company, and failed at the most core reason why they were hired - add long term value to the company. Its a bit the equivalent of architect buil…

Their shareholders did not want them to add long term value to the company.

Their shareholders wanted AI.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

#160
post #70

Too little, too late, and too specific in scope. Windows 11 is awful not merely because of the AI bullshit being shoehorned into everything, everywhere (CoPilot in Notepad? In Paint ? Are you serious , Microsoft?!), but also because of all the other completely unnecessary changes made to the OS. A curated selection of real-world examples from my recent gig making a hardened Windows 11 image for a physical product lin…

Besides the general awfulness of Windows that you describe, have you looked at C:\Windows recently? It is an unorganised mess with multiple different case styling all over the place. I get this is not that important but I can't help feel it illustrates just how little care is taken behind the scenes. The whole thing seems like a nightmare to deal with. I had a fresh install of Windows on a new computer which refused…

C:\Windows has always been that way. There's no demand for it to be organised in any way other than unique filenames.
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