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Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device

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Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device

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Post by bergheim »

I'm not even sure which one I have, it's old but it's great. Use it for streaming (smarttube, some apps) and moonlight/sunshine. It does 4k with a ps5 controller so well. Love it. I think it was like a 100 bucks 8 years ago? I use my desktop 5090 and basically stopped using ps5 for couch gaming because it looks so much better. Great value!

Also, not that this is better probably (it is Google and Nvidia after all), but it means my Samsung TV is not connected to the internet, so I don't have to wait 10 seconds for the menu to come up because it is busy loading and injecting ads.

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Post by brookst »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #168
xattt wrote: post #144

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I did end up switching to Flauncher for a while before getting an Apple TV.

Does Apple TV have ads for Apple shows in its UI?

Yes, one or two, and not annoying (not trying to grab your attention). No ads for toothpaste or cars.

Apple TV is not the solution for purists who cannot handle anything that can be construed as an ad. It’s a great solution for those who just want to browse and watch content without distracting ads everywhere.

Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device

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Post by SECProto »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #166
guilamu wrote: post #158

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This is Google. Just change the default launcher and you're good.

Nova Launcher just added advertisements, unless you buy Pro. Ads come for everyone.

That's because Nova launcher sold to new owners (whose presumed only goal is to serve ads)

Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device

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Post by guilamu »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #166
guilamu wrote: post #158

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This is Google. Just change the default launcher and you're good.

Nova Launcher just added advertisements, unless you buy Pro. Ads come for everyone.

Try https://github.com/spocky/miproja1, it's awesome and will never get any ads.

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Post by redeeman »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #167
aceazzameen wrote: post #163

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That was from when Macs ran Intel and could easily dual boot Windows. I still have an old Mac Book Pro with Windows 10 on it. Updates only stopped recently because Win10 is at end of life. I've been meaning to blow everything out and install Linux.

I am giving props to Microsoft because it did wrangle an industry together to standardize where one company makes the operating system and other companies make the hardware yet you can still upgrade your operating system even without the support of the vendor. Yet Google can’t seem to make that happen.

because google doesnt deliver the full OS, it delivers a bunch of stuff that the vendors then bastardize and use with insane drivers and crap from SoC vendors.

they should NEVER accept any of the binary only crap drivers, they should demand code be upstream or wont buy. But they dont care. Google doesnt care.

Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device

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Post by sfRattan »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #168
xattt wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did end up switching to Flauncher for a while before getting an Apple TV.

Does Apple TV have ads for Apple shows in its UI?

The Apps in the home row on Apple TV will have fullscreen promotions when the home row is along the bottom of the screen. If you set your home row apps with care, the fullscreen previews will not be ads (i.e. Photos will do a slideshow of your photos, Jellyfin just pulls random images from its/your own movie library metadata, etc.).

Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device

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Post by aaravchen »

joney_baloney wrote: post #80
aaravchen wrote: post #68

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I've looked at this a few times, and AppleTV actually has pretty poor support unless you're only using a select few streaming services and not streaming any of your own content. Shield performs exponentially better in every way except for the god awful stock interface (and Google data collection vs Apple data collection). The hardware and tvOS still have extremely limited support for most video codecs, no support at…

FWIW, I have no trouble playing any of my alternatively sourced media, 4K Dolby Vision included, using an app called Infuse. Pass-through audio may indeed be an issue for some lossless surround formats, or at least that's what it sounded like the last I looked into it some years ago. I don't have the right room to set up surrounds so it's stereo only over here anyway. But that said I love the app, lovely interface, e…

When I tried that before, the Infuse UI was unusably show for me, likely due to the library size, streaming from my server hung for a long time, it had to transcode most of the time because so few codecs were supported and it only supported stereo audio output. DV wasn't supported at all at the time.

It sounds like it's gotten better by a lot, but I'm curious whether you've had to pay for each newer version if Infuse. They were doing a "for life" purchase before, but that just meant the one major version number, and they were releasing new and EOL old major versions every 1.5-2 years at the time. It seemed like they were heading own the path of a monthly subscription payment model at the time

Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device

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Post by aaravchen »

Hamuko wrote: post #77
aaravchen wrote: post #68

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I've looked at this a few times, and AppleTV actually has pretty poor support unless you're only using a select few streaming services and not streaming any of your own content. Shield performs exponentially better in every way except for the god awful stock interface (and Google data collection vs Apple data collection). The hardware and tvOS still have extremely limited support for most video codecs, no support at…

I stream all of my own content with an Apple TV and Plex just fine. I don't know what problems you've had there. It even handles exotic stuff like Hi10P h.264.

How's your surround sound? tvOS 26 decided at the last minute not to support audio pass thru, which means only the pretty basic audio codecs that the AppleTV itself can decode are supported. That's an extremely limited number, and I believe only the very basic 5.1 is supported for any surround options.

Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device

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Post by aaravchen »

drnick1 wrote: post #76
aaravchen wrote: post #64

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You unfortunately lose Widevine support when you do this though (either switching to LineageOS or a mini-PC). That means you can't stream any of the mainstream services in anything like a half-decent quality. It's very unfortunate that every streaming service has given up on supporting anything except Google-fied Android and Apple iOS/tvOS. I dont like the services to begin with, but a fully Jellyfin stack can only g…

> That means you can't stream any of the mainstream services in anything like a half-decent quality. Maybe, but I don't think it's a big loss, and the *arr suite works just fine as a substitute.

That's the kicker I'm pointing out. It's a very limited number of people that agree.

If you're satisfied with the equivalent of 6-12 DVDs worth of content, or are only pulling the latest of a handful of shows and deleting them once watched, that's about all most people's setups will be able to store. But just like when streaming first started, people appreciate the 100s of TB of content from the streaming services and usually want that level of access.

I have 40+ TB on a >100TB system and we still use Netflix, HBO, or AppleTV+.

Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device

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Post by aaravchen »

compsciphd wrote: post #67
aaravchen wrote: post #65

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The unfortunate part is that CoreELEC only works when you get all your content from a locally attached disk. You can't even really stream it from your beefy NAS/server, and you definitely can't use any streaming services. I'm constantly surprised how many people are in that narrow category of just dipping thier toe in the water for "self-hosted" content that it's little enough it fits on disk storage you can have in…

I used it with plex (in kodi) just fine. With that said, I'd agree that its mostly for local media (where local can be whatever plex can get to). Outside of plex, either you are using plain kodi or some simple kodi extensions (say youtube) that just aren't as nice to use as their android app equivalents (in regards to streaming services, it does support MLB.TV for those that like baseball, but again, not quite as nic…

Him, I hadn't tried running it myself, but I couldn't find any indication if anyone using it for Plex (or equivalent). I only saw people going thru complicated schemes to Terry and setup network shared drives, or directly attaching external harddrives. I stand corrected.
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