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Scientist who helped eradicate smallpox dies at age 89

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Re: Scientist who helped eradicate smallpox dies at age 89

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Except it wasn't eradicated. It's still stored at the US's Fort Detrick, and in Russian and Chinese bioweapons facilities, too be released as a bioweapon, now that no one has natural immunity anymore.

It would be a pretty shoddy bioweapon considering you can't really target it and vaccines are available.

Maybe Russia or China are funding anti-vax idiots in the US so that it only affects America :-D

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Genghis Khan??

Genghis Khan also not too bad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Mongolica Whose peace are we now living under and what atrocities did they commit to establish it?

Sometimes you have to do a lot of things that look very bad in order to do some greater good that overshadows all the bad you did.

Re: Scientist who helped eradicate smallpox dies at age 89

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Perhaps I'm overly an optimist, but I have a feeling we will develop the informational and psychological technology to combat the destructive misinformation campaigns that brainwash people into harming their children with anti-vaccine beliefs. We are not there yet, because the destructive media forces are too new and we haven't developed defenses against information diseases like RFK Jr. But we will get there. Two st…

I admire your optimism. I genuinely wish I could share it. I hope that you are right.

Russia is close to falling, which is the true source of many of the mental viruses that are destroying democracies. And now, Russia's biggest win, the US, is proving that instead of heading towards fascism, that the people will actually stand up and fight back. Six months ago, the outlook was far more uncertain and if the US had not resisted, or Trump had picked a softer target than Minnesotans (never invade a winter people in winter), I would probably be feeing far different.

Things in the US are going to get far worse from here, and there will be a political war, but at least there will be a political war against the fascism. A lower bound has been established for badness that at least allows saving democracy in the US. I have not been this hopeful since October 2024.

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Epstein was friendly with, and made more people smile, than he raped. Phil Spector produced music which meant a lot to a lot of people. Still a murderer. Harold Shipman Saved the lives of thousands, yet should always be labelled a mass murderer because he knowingly positioned hundreds.

>Harold Shipman Saved the lives of thousands Probably not though, I don't think a typical GP saves thousands of lives

Not alone, but as a team I bet he did. Just as Fritz Haber did not personally save countless millions with his discovery, thousands of other people had to be involved there as well.

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Given the period of 2010-2012, the president at the time was Barack Obama. It does not seem realistic that people would accept opening a criminal case.

Why does it matter if it was Obama or Bush in power? Sure, their politics influence the nation's foreign policies. But domestic partisan politics is largely irrelevant to the international partners. To the foreign nationals affected by it, you're just USA either way. I mentioned just the other day, the problem with anti-intellectualism in the US and how it's fed by these sorts of egregious meddling by the administrat…

> Why does it matter if it was Obama or Bush in power?

If Bush was in Power, of course the accusation would have to made against Bush. So, of course, the accusation has to be made against the president that was in charge at the time. Dark skin color does not give him a "Get Out of Jail Free Card".

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As a non-American I don't care what you do, if you want to behave like irresponsible idiots without any regard for the lives of others you have that right. Just don't subject vulnerable individuals in other countries to your own bad choices (you can get the MMR vaccine as an adult if your parents were neglectful). Maybe visitors from the United States should have to present vaccine certificates at airports or be quar…

Canada and the UK have a ton more measles than even the US's completely unacceptable level of measles. Thinning this is a US problem completely misunderstands the nature of the misinformation problem. And I hope there's vaccination requirements for travel, according to how public health officials determine threats.

Canada already lost their measles elimination status and had several times higher measles rate than the US.

At this point, anyone pushing anti-vaccine thinking as an American problem is just pushing anti-American bias. Vaccine misinformation and hesitancy is an almost worldwide problem.

Re: Scientist who helped eradicate smallpox dies at age 89

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post #72

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Why does it matter if it was Obama or Bush in power? Sure, their politics influence the nation's foreign policies. But domestic partisan politics is largely irrelevant to the international partners. To the foreign nationals affected by it, you're just USA either way. I mentioned just the other day, the problem with anti-intellectualism in the US and how it's fed by these sorts of egregious meddling by the administrat…

> Why does it matter if it was Obama or Bush in power? How can you open a war crime case against a guy who already got a Peace Nobel Prize? And what war crime? Was there a war? Maybe some special military operation against Bin Laden.

> How can you open a war crime case against a guy who already got a Peace Nobel Prize?

Henry Kissinger (1973 Nobel Peace Prize together with Lê Đức Thọ) can be considered a war criminal:

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial_of_Henry_Kissinger

Yasser Arafat (1994 Nobel Peace Prize together with Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon Peres) was also very likely a war criminal.

Re: Scientist who helped eradicate smallpox dies at age 89

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We still have another chance for eradication in humans with Polio.

Not if the CIA has anything to say about it: CIA fake vaccination campaign in Pakistan[0] ...The program was ultimately unsuccessful in locating Osama bin Laden. It led to the arrest of a participating physician, Shakil Afridi, and was widely ridiculed as undermining public health.[2][3] The program is credited with increasing vaccine hesitancy in Pakistan[4][5][6][7] and a rise in violence against healthcare workers…

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