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Mobile carriers can get your GPS location

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Re: Mobile carriers can get your GPS location

#71

What if I told you that carriers can also activate your phone's microphone without your knowledge and listen in on your surroundings?

One of the reasons I use iPhones is that Apple controls an integrated hardware/software experience, which makes it less likely that private information is being leaked despite the presence of privacy controls.

I empathize with the sentiment, but in reality Apple is as lazy as anyone else: https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/07/29/134008/apple-con...

Re: Mobile carriers can get your GPS location

#72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article does not explain in detail how all this works. But educated guess is that if a baseband SoC provides this information, that's it. The phone operating system (iOS, Android) does not get a chance to decide what to do, since baseband soc is a sort of autonomous computer, it has its own firmware, cpu and ram.

You might not be able to fix this in the OS alone, but phone manufacturers are responsible for the whole phone. The baseband doesn't need to behave that way.

Well, yes. But autonomous is acting in accordance with one's duty (a law) rather than one's desires.

Re: Mobile carriers can get your GPS location

#73

This community should be talking about meshcore more imho. It's a peer to peer network based on Lora. It really only allows text messaging but with up to 20km hops between peers coverage is surprisingly huge. Incredibly useful if you go hiking with friends (if you get split up you can still stay in touch). See https://eastmesh.au/ and scroll down to the map for the Victoria and now more widely Australia network that'…

Meshcore and -tastic have the huge problem that the encryption keys are bound to the device and not the app.

Re: Mobile carriers can get your GPS location

#74

This community should be talking about meshcore more imho. It's a peer to peer network based on Lora. It really only allows text messaging but with up to 20km hops between peers coverage is surprisingly huge. Incredibly useful if you go hiking with friends (if you get split up you can still stay in touch). See https://eastmesh.au/ and scroll down to the map for the Victoria and now more widely Australia network that'…

Why Meshcore over Meshtastic?

Re: Mobile carriers can get your GPS location

#76

This community should be talking about meshcore more imho. It's a peer to peer network based on Lora. It really only allows text messaging but with up to 20km hops between peers coverage is surprisingly huge. Incredibly useful if you go hiking with friends (if you get split up you can still stay in touch). See https://eastmesh.au/ and scroll down to the map for the Victoria and now more widely Australia network that'…

I’ve been wondering this for a while and maybe someone has a clue.

Based on the very “bursty” nature of LoRA, how much does an adversary need to spend to radiolocate it? What’s the threat model there?

Re: Mobile carriers can get your GPS location

#77

This community should be talking about meshcore more imho. It's a peer to peer network based on Lora. It really only allows text messaging but with up to 20km hops between peers coverage is surprisingly huge. Incredibly useful if you go hiking with friends (if you get split up you can still stay in touch). See https://eastmesh.au/ and scroll down to the map for the Victoria and now more widely Australia network that'…

Why Meshcore over Meshtastic?

There’s lots of YouTube videos about this but basically: you can specify routing.

Re: Mobile carriers can get your GPS location

#79

What if I told you that carriers can also activate your phone's microphone without your knowledge and listen in on your surroundings?

My provider knows who I call, who I text, which websites I browse, my bank account number, my home address, my rough location, which countries I visited for holiday and through DTMF they can even sense which buttons I press on my handset.

Re: Mobile carriers can get your GPS location

#80
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would that work?

The phone could literally pop up a consent alert asking whether to respond to a GPS ping request from the carrier. Or just not honor the pings at all unless you dialed 911 within the last hour. This is a specific service inside the phone that looks for messages from the carrier requesting a GPS position, it could just refuse, or lie. It's not the same as cell tower triangulation.

That’s not happening today. I meant how is it happening today, such that it can only ever happen when you dial 911?
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