Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

YouTube blocks background video playback on Brave and other browsers

piunikaweb.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

171–180 of 212 posts

Re: YouTube blocks background video playback on Brave and other browsers

#171

Post by molticrystal »

More and more Youtube search results are a playlist when you click the result.

This causes a fatalistic chain where the video has a captcha, and if you don't answer it in 5-15 seconds it goes to the next in the playlist and the process repeats. This turbo charges uncontrollably down the series of videos.

The solution is within seconds remove the &pp= (or go back a few pages and do so) this gives you as much time as you need to solve the captcha. Or remember to copy the search result link instead of clicking on it and clean it up.

I wrote to youtube about this bug where playlists don't wait for you to answer the captcha and never heard back from them, which is what I expected, but figured I'd try.

Re: YouTube blocks background video playback on Brave and other browsers

#172

Post by isthatafact »

keepamovin wrote: post #44
kurito wrote: post #23

What a waste of resources. Imagine employing some of the most brilliant engineers on the planet and allocating man-hours towards artificially worsening the experience for your userbase in order to blackmail them into paying you, and giving them back what they had in the first place. At least this is a loosing game for Google, since this is client side behaviour.

Maybe ads-as-business-model is like political ideology - it is not a human universal but must adapt to the place: for instance collectivism over individualism in East Asia, theocratic conservatism over democracy in Afghanistan -- maybe ads as business model is despicable to some regions, but accepted in others? Albania it's apparently illegal for YouTube to serve ads?

Without regulations, ads seem to infiltrate into every space--virtual or physical--that is not controlled by the owner or some other gatekeeper.

I would hope most people anywhere would see that as a bad thing, especially given the scams and harms that ads are pushing.

I am not sure the best way to improve things, but anyone should be able to live a normal day of life without being forced to see any advertisement.

Re: YouTube blocks background video playback on Brave and other browsers

#173

Post by manwithaplan »

Pooge wrote: post #12
politelemon wrote: post #8

Newpipe remains one of the best solutions for background playback. They do tend to move pretty quickly to patch "fixes" that YouTube throw in now and again. It's also useful for video backups if you need to preserve them for any reason.

yt-dlp is great if on desktop.

It works perfectly fine under Termux, too.

Re: YouTube blocks background video playback on Brave and other browsers

#174

Post by nikanj »

wazoox wrote: post #142
nikanj wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they are an evil monopolistic empire, why are you upset you can’t use their services? It’s not like watching shorts is a matter of life/death.

They're a monopoly. They force me to use their shitty, ad-laden, privacy-violating services. I'll use all possible circumvention measures possible. Of course I use alternative solutions as much as possible, but it's a monopoly, remember ? Not a public service. Not a sane, competitive market. Dismantle the GAFAM. Death to them. They're evil, imperialistic, freedom-killing machines.

What sort of punishment do you endure if you refuse to use youtube? How long is the mandatory daily minimum?

Re: YouTube blocks background video playback on Brave and other browsers

#175

Post by rchaud »

speedgoose wrote: post #88
slvng wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best engineer I've ever known ended up working for years on optimizing ad space auction time by micro seconds.

They may have been extremely competent at this, but if they decided to spend years of their relatively short ephemeral life on such a useless project, perhaps they weren’t the best at the time. Perhaps they needed money and were focusing on family life, I don’t know. Who I am to judge? I’m judging though.

Before tech became the go-to big money job, there was a well-worn stereotype of electrical engineering grads going to Wall Street instead of an EE-centric job.

Re: YouTube blocks background video playback on Brave and other browsers

#177

Post by rchaud »

Hackbraten wrote: post #101

I can't believe I'd ever find myself shilling for Google of all companies, but how is it sustainable from a creator's point of view if the viewer neither pays for a subscription nor looks at the ads?

Google is doing this for their advertisers, not creators. They have already pulled the rug out for under them with AI search queries and timestamp links that circumventthe creator's own in-video ads.

Re: YouTube blocks background video playback on Brave and other browsers

#180

Post by latexr »

freedomben wrote: post #155
latexr wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Imagine employing some of the most brilliant engineers on the planet Maybe we should stop with that tired fallacious rhetoric? Just because you work at a massive company doesn’t make you “brilliant”.

GP did not say that just because you work at a massive company you are brilliant. Nor did they say just working at Google makes you brilliant. The irony of your comment of accusing them of using fallacious rhetoric, is that your reply uses one of the most common fallacies of all: strawman fallacy

GP assumed “the most brilliant engineers” are working on these problems. There’s zero reason to believe that is true and the one thing we know about those people is that they work for Google.

Their argument isn’t new, it’s just a rehash of “the most brilliant minds of our generation are working on trying to get you to click on ads”. My criticism was directed at the general argument, which is simply wrong. That comment is based on nothing except those people working at those corporations.

It is not a strawman because I am disagreeing with the conclusion as quoted, the reasoning being immaterial.

Post reply on HN