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Re: Show HN: I trained a 9M speech model to fix my Mandarin tones

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How do you actually go about training specialized speech models? Let's say you have a language dialect you want to specialize on, or a pidgin English from West Africa, or a regular language but with highly specialized terminologies being used.

Just curious - would you need insane HW infrastructure to begin with, or hosted/managed. And what tooling is preferred by the industry for the "training"?

Re: Show HN: I trained a 9M speech model to fix my Mandarin tones

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I'm not familiar with this slang: what's a big plate?

the commenter's username (i'm guessing they mean 大胖子, feel free to google translate)

This is the correct.

I was first called this by a Chinese classmate from Beijing with a biting sense of humor, when I was at university in Tokyo.

We got on really well, to be clear. :)

Hanging out with him was actually how I got started with Mandarin, probably why I chose this username.

Re: Show HN: I trained a 9M speech model to fix my Mandarin tones

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The reason why Chinese people have difficulty pronouncing Indo-European languages is that Chinese has a very limited set of syllables, and they always follow the pattern (consonant) + vowel + (nasal/rhotic consonant), with possibly one of the consonants being dropped. Chinese does not have clusters of consonants like "rst" in "first." The closest thing in Chinese phonology to "first" would be something like "fi-re-se…

> This is all related to the existence of tones, but tones are not the direct reason why Chinese people have difficulty pronouncing words like "first." Actually they kind of are. The tonal system of modern Chinese dialects developed from voiced initial constants of syllables. Old Chinese (Han dynasty and older) might not have been a tonal language altogether. Many linguists think that they developed from final conson…

I said that the tones are not the direct reason.

They're indirectly related to the difficulty Chinese native speakers have with learning to pronounce Indo-European languages, in that the tones developed as Chinese syllables became more simple and restricted.

Re: Show HN: I trained a 9M speech model to fix my Mandarin tones

#115
This thread is like a diamond to me because I have been thinking about building almost the same thing for English tones. I need a model like this.

I'm sure there are a bunch of apps out there that claim they do the same thing, but they don't, IMO. Even if they do, as you said, where is the fun in that?

Great post, thanks for it!

Re: Show HN: I trained a 9M speech model to fix my Mandarin tones

#117
I wish this were available for more languages! It would also be neat to estimate the native language of the speaker, given their pronunciation of the target language, and propose a prioritization of the pronunciation mistakes the language learner should work on first.

Re: Show HN: I trained a 9M speech model to fix my Mandarin tones

#120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the commenter's username (i'm guessing they mean 大胖子, feel free to google translate)

This is the correct. I was first called this by a Chinese classmate from Beijing with a biting sense of humor, when I was at university in Tokyo. We got on really well, to be clear. :) Hanging out with him was actually how I got started with Mandarin, probably why I chose this username.

I remember when first learning Mandarin coming across a phrase '你发福了' which literally compliments someone on blessings (i.e. having become more wealthy) but idiomatically means you gained weight.
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