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Re: YouTube blocks background video playback on Brave and other browsers

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Post by stevenhuang »

ErenayDev wrote: post #17
politelemon wrote: post #8

Newpipe remains one of the best solutions for background playback. They do tend to move pretty quickly to patch "fixes" that YouTube throw in now and again. It's also useful for video backups if you need to preserve them for any reason.

I am using Tubular, a NewPipe fork that has built-in SponsorBlock and ReturnYouTubeDislike features.

Tubular is great. Though they sometimes take a while to fix playback issues, like the one where videos only played for 10 seconds. That caused a bunch of forks to come out and I used those for a period of time.

Lately I discovered Firefox with background play and sponsor block extensions still work. If this stops working hopefully tubular will be a good backup.

Re: YouTube blocks background video playback on Brave and other browsers

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Post by giancarlostoro »

bpavuk wrote: post #93
slvng wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best engineer I've ever known ended up working for years on optimizing ad space auction time by micro seconds.

they either: a) don't care b) were desperate enough at the time, then, like that damn videogame, it sucked him in it's too easy to get carried away by sheer technical complexity of optimization tasks, even if you are optimizing for bad.

Or were paid handsomely?

Re: YouTube blocks background video playback on Brave and other browsers

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Post by giancarlostoro »

blell wrote: post #97
speedgoose wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They may have been extremely competent at this, but if they decided to spend years of their relatively short ephemeral life on such a useless project, perhaps they weren’t the best at the time. Perhaps they needed money and were focusing on family life, I don’t know. Who I am to judge? I’m judging though.

Why is that useless as opposed to what most of us do for work? I think you guys have a weird sense of how useful the average job is, or how much the average job contributes to society at large. At least this made a lot of money I guess.

Yeah this is no different from someone optimizing literally any other performance bottlenecks in ANY other web project.

Re: YouTube blocks background video playback on Brave and other browsers

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Post by giancarlostoro »

alternatex wrote: post #106
blell wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is that useless as opposed to what most of us do for work? I think you guys have a weird sense of how useful the average job is, or how much the average job contributes to society at large. At least this made a lot of money I guess.

You can create a lot of profit for your employer whilst contributing nothing to society or even be detrimental to it. Money has no bearing on that.

They can take the skill to any other employer and improve performance for others elsewhere. Think of all the seconds you could get back to do more meaningful things if more websites were fully optimized. It may sound silly but it snowballs into minutes, hours, and days.

Re: YouTube blocks background video playback on Brave and other browsers

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Post by laserlight »

slig wrote: post #126
laserlight wrote: post #18

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It upsets me to see YouTube Premium apologists despite all the hostile moves by YouTube. YouTube Premium is an extortion scheme. When there are enough paying customers, YouTube Premium will begin showing ads to them. They won't forget sugarcoating ads as being “unobtrusive” or “environment-supporting” or whatever. But guess what? If you don't want to see them, you can upgrade to YouTube Premium Plus and continue bein…

>When there are enough paying customers, YouTube Premium will begin showing ads to them. We'll see. Until then, it's cheap and works fine.

It used to be cheaper and work finer.

Re: YouTube blocks background video playback on Brave and other browsers

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Post by zarzavat »

Hackbraten wrote: post #101

I can't believe I'd ever find myself shilling for Google of all companies, but how is it sustainable from a creator's point of view if the viewer neither pays for a subscription nor looks at the ads?

YouTube was better before it was taken over by career content creators. People used to make videos because they wanted to share something with the world. It was more authentic. Now everything is about clickbait and maximizing revenue.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that they can get some money from it, but maybe there's too much money now. Every time I hear about a YouTube creator quitting their job and going pro, I fear for the future quality of their output.

Re: YouTube blocks background video playback on Brave and other browsers

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Post by thebytefairy »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #163
blell wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is that useless as opposed to what most of us do for work? I think you guys have a weird sense of how useful the average job is, or how much the average job contributes to society at large. At least this made a lot of money I guess.

Yeah this is no different from someone optimizing literally any other performance bottlenecks in ANY other web project.

Yea, and the scale of impact on the economy of those micro seconds is probably huge

Re: YouTube blocks background video playback on Brave and other browsers

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Post by jy14898 »

estimator7292 wrote: post #159
jy14898 wrote: post #43

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While I'm not pro YouTube, I think it's fine for companies to decide how to monetise their product, including things which were originally free. If you don't like free services, stop using them

They're removing functionality that you already heave built into your browser in order to force you to pay to get that functionality back. That's not monetization that's exploitation. Would you feel the same if your phone suddenly updated so that your camera records in half quality unless you start paying monthly? It's their product, they can monetize it how they like.

It's monetisation. If they put a paywall on the video, your browser has the functionality to play the video but you're forced to pay to use that functionality.

Also wrt phone, it's different because I paid for the phone. But also I'd just use a different camera app?

Re: YouTube blocks background video playback on Brave and other browsers

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Post by xigoi »

Hackbraten wrote: post #101

I can't believe I'd ever find myself shilling for Google of all companies, but how is it sustainable from a creator's point of view if the viewer neither pays for a subscription nor looks at the ads?

Maybe creating videos should be a hobby, not a job.
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