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Re: E-Ink Android phone promises a week long battery life

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This could become an awesome secondary travel/camping phone. Sure when I'm home I generally remember to charge my phone every or every other night, but when out and about there are many times when charging is inconvenient of impossible.

You have a phone which you can charge every "other" night and still be running? In my experience the Driod Razr Maxx is the only modern smartphone you can really do that with.

Re: E-Ink Android phone promises a week long battery life

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I have been thinking about a responsive e-ink for some time. What I would love is a responsive e-ink screen to use for text editing, Imagine a large responsive e-ink screen that you can use for coding, reading, etc... Although for coding it would also need some basic colours.

Color would be great, though I think monochrome syntax highlighting would be a fair compromise for a first generation device. Bold for keywords, italic for comments or maybe strings. Maybe a few extra monospace fonts if you need more than that. Where's the kickstarter for this I can throw money at?

Yeah that's a good idea. The main problem with e-ink is the response time. The current screens are not responsive enough for typing.

Re: E-Ink Android phone promises a week long battery life

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a video consumption device, no. Doesn't mean it can't be a great device for web surfing, listening to music and reading on, as well as a phone that lasts a week. If the colour aspect gets fixed I'd be tempted.

Web surfing on an e-ink isn't fun. It's not an inherent problem (ie, you could have an optimized site that worked fine) but sites on the web now have scrolling and moving parts. On phone size screens you also have zooming. With e-ink you want to move cleanly between static screens.

The browser on my Kindle Touch has multi-touch zooming. Works great!

Re: E-Ink Android phone promises a week long battery life

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post #8

This could become an awesome secondary travel/camping phone. Sure when I'm home I generally remember to charge my phone every or every other night, but when out and about there are many times when charging is inconvenient of impossible.

For camping surely an old nokia will do? I keep one, which isn't much bigger than a mars bar, for this purpose and the battery lasts for ages.

Re: E-Ink Android phone promises a week long battery life

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I wish for a dual screen mobile (one side LCD and other side E-Ink)

Can one or the other be (more or less) completely transparent? Is it possible to have one screen layered over the other such that the LCD only becomes active when the user is directly interacting with the device?

(Off to the patent office I go!)

Re: E-Ink Android phone promises a week long battery life

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post #18

I wish for a dual screen mobile (one side LCD and other side E-Ink)

I have been wanting this for a while and I still can't figure out why no one has released one. In my mind, my cell phone (or tablet) should be an all in one device - which to a large degree is becoming the case. I hated having a stand alone MP3 player, GPS receiver and camera. Now that e-readers (and wannabe e-readers - kindle fire, ipad, etc.) are becoming mainstream, I don't want my next phone (first tablet) to be without a low power screen. I am a bit disappointed in the average consumer though - it seems like they have a hard time understanding the advantages of e-ink screens or they are ok with reading on an ipad/kindle fire as it can do more than a basic e-reader. If executed well, it could be a major product enhancement and give a mobile device make an edge for a while, esp. considering it would be cheap to add - the screen and the minimal amount of hardware to interface that with the rest of the phone.

Re: E-Ink Android phone promises a week long battery life

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Not bad at all, but then again a IMOD display would be better: its in color and it has much faster refresh rates so it can play video and use touch UIs just like in any LCD.

It has some downsides compared to regular screens but it looks even better than eInk and has similar advantages like low energy use.

Re: E-Ink Android phone promises a week long battery life

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It could be useful in India or African countries with not much access to energy. But I doubt people from developed nations would want this. It most likely offers nowhere near the experience of an LCD device. Remember, besides the lack of color issue, e-ink devices work best when the on-screen image is static, and not changing often.

This is a controller-chip issue, not intrinsic to the display technology.

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/05/i-wish-my-nooks-e-ink-disp...

E-Ink was done a great dis-service by the scanning-refresh chips that came out with the display. Simultaneous-refresh is how any reasonable display device does it.

Re: E-Ink Android phone promises a week long battery life

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It could be useful in India or African countries with not much access to energy. But I doubt people from developed nations would want this. It most likely offers nowhere near the experience of an LCD device. Remember, besides the lack of color issue, e-ink devices work best when the on-screen image is static, and not changing often.

If this were a 10" 3G color eInk table instead it would be perfect for browsing, emailing and terminal based programming on the go.

I would absolutely love such a device...

Re: E-Ink Android phone promises a week long battery life

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's an example of vim running on an eink device ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdmX52SCpG0 ). A lightweight, long battery life eink-coder would be a fantastic thing to have when travelling. Grayscale vim would be good enough for me: http://sstallion.blogspot.com/2010/10/newsprintvim-pleasant-...

I'm still waiting on my Raspberry Pi (if it ever gets here, I've been waiting 6 months) with the dreams of turning it into a small, Radio Shack-style Vim machine. Building a case with a keyboard, a small display screen, a command line, and a huge battery. When it's connected to the Internet, it would push the changes up, but when it's not it would cache it locally. Sometimes I like to go camping while I work, for the…

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