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This response feels disproportionate to the comment's comment
And also just… misguided? I don’t particularly think of neo-Nazis when I think of people who advocate against CSAM.
Peerweb: Decentralized website hosting via WebTorrent
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Re: Peerweb: Decentralized website hosting via WebTorrent
#52Useless if it takes > 5 sec. to load a page
You never lived the 90's
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This response feels disproportionate to the comment's comment
And also just… misguided? I don’t particularly think of neo-Nazis when I think of people who advocate against CSAM.
We all know that CSAM is one of the first things that gets uploaded to these sorts of platforms.
If advocating against CSAM = Fascism then I'll be the first to say that i'm a nazi facist. o7
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
And also just… misguided? I don’t particularly think of neo-Nazis when I think of people who advocate against CSAM.
We all know that CSAM is one of the first things that gets uploaded to these sorts of platforms. If advocating against CSAM = Fascism then I'll be the first to say that i'm a nazi facist. o7
Yeah, I’m fully in support of a decentralised web but the internet is old enough now that being naive about this stuff has become equivalent to being maliciously incompetent. Without designing for things like community or self-governance and moderation, you’re designing for trouble. Thinking about ways to healthily cultivate a peer-to-peer web doesn’t make someone a Nazi, it makes them a responsible member of a community.
Re: Peerweb: Decentralized website hosting via WebTorrent
#55I don't get it, I upload my files to your site, then I send my friends links to your site? How is this not a single point of failure?
IPFS [1] requires a gateway unfortunately (whether remote or running locally). If you can use content idents that are supported by web primitives, you get the distributed nature without IPFS scaffolding required. Content is versioned by hash, although I haven't looked to see if mutable torrents [2] [3] are used in this implementation. Searching via distributed hash tables for torrent metadata, cryptographically signe…
You don't hear much these days about IPFS, but I can remember one big problem with it was illegal content and how to deal with it.
Re: Peerweb: Decentralized website hosting via WebTorrent
#56Cool. Some people complained about broken demos, I uploaded the mdwiki.info [1] website unaltered and seems to work fine [0]. MDwiki is a single .html file that fetches custom markdown via ajax relative to the html file and renders it via Javascript. [0]: https://peerweb.lol/?orc=b549f37bb4519d1abd2952483610b8078e6... [1]: https://dynalon.github.io/mdwiki/
Why is it called MDwiki? It's clearly not a wiki.
Re: Peerweb: Decentralized website hosting via WebTorrent
#57What do you all think of the chances that we have decentralized AI infrastructure like this at some point?
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#58I can't imagine that Peerweb has much in the way of stopping certain types of material from being uploaded.
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I think the issue has generally been that web torrent doesn't work enough like the real thing to do its job properly. There are huge bit torrent based streaming media networks out there, illicit, sure, but its a proven technology. If browsers had real torrent clients we would be having a very different conversation imo I don't remember the web torrent issue numbers off the top of my head, but there are a number of lo…
I think we still have the same blocker as we had back when WebTorrent first appeared; browsers cannot be real torrent clients and open connections without some initial routing for the discovery, and they cannot open bi-directional unordered connections between two browsers. If we could say do peer discovery via Bluetooth, and open sockets directly from a browser page, we could in theory have local-first websites runn…
If a tracker could be connected to via WebRTC and had additional STUN functionality, would that suffice? Are there additional WebRTC limitations?
> they cannot open bi-directional unordered connections between two browsers.
Last I checked, DataChannels were bidirectional
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
And also just… misguided? I don’t particularly think of neo-Nazis when I think of people who advocate against CSAM.
We all know that CSAM is one of the first things that gets uploaded to these sorts of platforms. If advocating against CSAM = Fascism then I'll be the first to say that i'm a nazi facist. o7
In high school, an acquaintance of mine made the website "e-imagesite.com" [1]. It was a very easy-to-use image uploading site (and honestly less irritating than ImageShack and predated imgur). It was just being hosted on HostGator, I believe, and written in PHP and used jQuery.
I believe he had to eventually shut it down because people kept uploading horrifying stuff to it, and it was never even that popular. Child porn and bestiality were constantly being uploaded and I don't think he liked having to constantly report stuff to the FBI.
After building a proper comment section for my blog (including tripcodes!), I've thought about making my own "chan" site, since I think that could be fun, but I am completely terrified of people uploading horrible stuff that I would be forced to sift through and moderate pretty frequently. User submissions open up a huge legal can of worms and I am not sure that's a path that I'm willing to commit myself going down.
When there's strong anonymity, I suspect that this problem could be even worse.
It's a little depressing, because decentralized and distributed computing is one of the most interesting parts of computer science to me, but it feels like whenever I mention anything about it, people immediately assume piracy or illicit material.
[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20090313063155/http://www.e-imag...