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Re: Peerweb: Decentralized website hosting via WebTorrent

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Fun! I wish WebTorrent had caught on more. I've always thought it had a worthy place in the modern P2P conversation. In 2020, I messed around with a PoC for what hosting and distributing Linux distros could look like using WebTorrent[1]. The protocol project as a whole has a lovely and brilliant design but has stayed mostly stagnant in recent years. There are only a couple of WebRTC-enabled torrent trackers that have…

I think the issue has generally been that web torrent doesn't work enough like the real thing to do its job properly. There are huge bit torrent based streaming media networks out there, illicit, sure, but its a proven technology. If browsers had real torrent clients we would be having a very different conversation imo I don't remember the web torrent issue numbers off the top of my head, but there are a number of lo…

I think we still have the same blocker as we had back when WebTorrent first appeared; browsers cannot be real torrent clients and open connections without some initial routing for the discovery, and they cannot open bi-directional unordered connections between two browsers.

If we could say do peer discovery via Bluetooth, and open sockets directly from a browser page, we could in theory have local-first websites running in the browser, that does P2P connections straight between browsers.

Re: Peerweb: Decentralized website hosting via WebTorrent

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I feel like if it were combined with federated caching servers it would actually work. Then you would have persistence and the p2p part helps take load off popular content. There are now P2P databases that seem to operate with this. Combining the best of both worlds.

Re: Peerweb: Decentralized website hosting via WebTorrent

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

p2p storage as in torrent or IPFS or whatever is the part that we kinda' solved already. Serving/searching/addressing without the (centralized) DNS is still missing for a (urgently needed) p2p censorship resistant internet. Unfortunately this guy just uses some buzzwords to offer nothing new - why would I share links to that site instead of sharing torrent magnet links?

This is a great point. One issue I've had with IPFS is that there's nothing baked into the protocol to maintain peer health, which really limits the ability to keep the swarm connected and healthy.

I use to add webseeds but clients seem to love just downloading it from there rather than from my conventional seeding.

Some new ideas are needed in this space.

Re: Peerweb: Decentralized website hosting via WebTorrent

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Cool. Some people complained about broken demos, I uploaded the mdwiki.info [1] website unaltered and seems to work fine [0]. MDwiki is a single .html file that fetches custom markdown via ajax relative to the html file and renders it via Javascript.

[0]: https://peerweb.lol/?orc=b549f37bb4519d1abd2952483610b8078e6...

[1]: https://dynalon.github.io/mdwiki/

Re: Peerweb: Decentralized website hosting via WebTorrent

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post #13

Fun! I wish WebTorrent had caught on more. I've always thought it had a worthy place in the modern P2P conversation. In 2020, I messed around with a PoC for what hosting and distributing Linux distros could look like using WebTorrent[1]. The protocol project as a whole has a lovely and brilliant design but has stayed mostly stagnant in recent years. There are only a couple of WebRTC-enabled torrent trackers that have…

Was there ever a web-based Jigdo?

Re: Peerweb: Decentralized website hosting via WebTorrent

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I can't imagine that Peerweb has much in the way of stopping certain types of material from being uploaded.

you can't stop someone from verbally describing certain objectionable material, therefore we should regulate the medium thru which sound travels and suck up all the oxygen on the planet. it's the only way to save the children

Re: Peerweb: Decentralized website hosting via WebTorrent

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post #28

I can't imagine that Peerweb has much in the way of stopping certain types of material from being uploaded.

you can't stop someone from verbally describing certain objectionable material, therefore we should regulate the medium thru which sound travels and suck up all the oxygen on the planet. it's the only way to save the children

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