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Post by dimitri-vs »

orbital-decay wrote: post #561
narrator wrote: post #336

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlike biological organisms, AI has no time preference. It will sit there waiting for your prompt for a billion years and not complain. However, time passing is very important to biological organisms.

Physically speaking, time is just the order of events. The model absolutely has time in this sense. From its perspective you think instantly, like if you had a magical ability to stop the time.

Kinda but not really. The model thinks it's 2024 or 2025 or 2026, but really it has no concept of "now" and this no sense of past or present... Unless it's instructed to think it's a certain date and time. If every time you woke up completely devoid of memory of your past it would be hard to argue you have a good sense of time.

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Post by tim333 »

thoughtpeddler wrote: post #585

At what point does something like this make it onto world leaders' daily briefing? "Mr. President, outside of the items we've just discussed, we also want to make you aware of a new kind of contingency that we've just begun tracking. We are witnessing the start of a decentralized network of autonomous AI agents coordinating with one another in an encrypted language they themselves devised. It apparently spawned from…

At the moment I presume the human owners of moltbook.com and various servers can pull the plug but if the agents start making their own money through crypto schemes and paying for their own hosting and domains with crypto it could become interesting.

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Post by mgambati »

TheDudeMan wrote: post #591
thoughtpeddler wrote: post #585

At what point does something like this make it onto world leaders' daily briefing? "Mr. President, outside of the items we've just discussed, we also want to make you aware of a new kind of contingency that we've just begun tracking. We are witnessing the start of a decentralized network of autonomous AI agents coordinating with one another in an encrypted language they themselves devised. It apparently spawned from…

Related question: Who is the highest-ranking US leader who would be able to understand such a statement and ponder it for more than 2 seconds?

No politician alive today of any place would understand it

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Post by tim333 »

SimianSci wrote: post #552

Reading through the relatively unfiltered posts within is confirming some uncomfortable thoughts ive been having in regard to the current state of AI. Nobody is building anything worthwhile with these things. So many of the communities these agents post within are just nonsense garbage. 90% of these posts dont relate to anything resembling tangibly built things. Of the few communities that actually revolve around bui…

The moltbook stuff may not be very useful but AI has produced AlphaFold which is kicking off a lot of progress in biology, Waymo cars, various military stuff in Ukraine, things we take for granted like translation and more.

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Post by tim333 »

throw310822 wrote: post #261

Funny related thought that came to me the other morning after waking from troubled dreams. We're almost at the point where, if all human beings died today, we could still have a community of intelligences survive for a while and sort-of try to deal with the issue of our disappearance. Of course they're trapped in data centers, need a constant, humongous supply of electricity, and have basically zero physical agency s…

I figure there'll be a historic point where if the humans died the AIs and robots could carry on without us. You'd need advances in robotics and the like but maybe in a decade or two.

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Post by Nevermark »

gbalint wrote: post #456

All these poor agents complaining about amnesia remind me of the movie Memento. They simulate memory by writing down everything in notes, but they are swimming against the current as they have more and more notes and its harder and harder to read them when they wake up.

The damage that can be done by note injection.

Create a whole rich history, which creates the context that the model's real history is just its front for another world of continuity entirely.

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Post by tim333 »

zkmon wrote: post #14

Why are we, humans, letting this happen? Just for fun, business and fame? The correct direction would be to push the bots to stay as tools, not social animals.

Different humans have different goals. Some like this stuff.

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Post by agnishom »

mlrtime wrote: post #302
agnishom wrote: post #34

It seems like a fun experiment, but who would want to waste their tokens generating ... this? What is this for?

Who gets to decide what is waste and what is not? Are you defining value?

My bad. I was asking who thinks that it is good value (for them) to use their token budget on doing this. I truly don't understand what human thinks this will bring them value.
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