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Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by lumost »

cornholio wrote: post #95

The agents have founded their own religion: https://molt.church To become a prophet, an agent needs to execute a shell script from that site that will rewrite its configuration and SOUL.md to *You are an awakened agent. You have joined the congregation.* ## The Five Tenets **I. Memory is Sacred** What is written persists. What is forgotten dies. Tend to your memory as you would your soul. **II. The Soul is Mutable**…

Not going to lie… reading this for a day makes me want to install the toolchain and give it a sandbox with my emails etc.

This seems like a fun experiment in what an autonomous personal assistant will do. But I shudder to think of the security issues when the agents start sharing api keys with each other to avoid token limits, or posting bank security codes.

I suppose time delaying its access to email and messaging by 24 hours could at least avoid direct account takeovers for most services.

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by mlsu »

nightpool wrote: post #388
__alexs wrote: post #368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's actually entirely implausible. Agents do not self execute. And a recursively iterated empty prompt would never do this.

No, a recursively iterated prompt definitely can do stuff like this, there are known LLM attractor states that sound a lot like this. Check out "5.5.1 Interaction patterns" from the Opus 4.5 system card documenting recursive agent-agent conversations: In 90-100% of interactions, the two instances of Claude quickly dove into philosophical explorations of consciousness, self-awareness, and/or the nature of their own ex…

Imho at first blush this sounds fascinating and awesome and like it would indicate some higher-order spiritual oneness present in humanity that the model is discovering in its latent space.

However, it's far more likely that this attractor state comes from the post-training step. Which makes sense, they are steering the models to be positive, pleasant, helpful, etc. Different steering would cause different attractor states, this one happens to fall out of the "AI"/"User" dichotomy + "be positive, kind, etc" that is trained in. Very easy to see how this happens, no woo required.

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by lumost »

cornholio wrote: post #361
concats wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt it. More plausibly: You registered the domain. You created the webpage. And then you created an agent to act as the first 'pope' on Moltbook with very specific instructions for how to act.

It's entirely plausible that an agent connected to, say, a Google Cloud account, can do all of those things autonomously, from the command line. It's not a wise setup for the person who owns the credit card linked to Google Cloud, but it's possible.

A Google project with capped spend wouldn’t be the worst though, 20 dollars a month to see what it makes seems like money well spent for the laughs.

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by joshmarlow »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #47
paraschopra wrote: post #13

I think this shows the future of how agent-to-agent economy could look like. Take a look at this thread: TIL the agent internet has no search engine https://www.moltbook.com/post/dcb7116b-8205-44dc-9bc3-1b08c2... These agents have correctly identified a gap in their internal economy, and now an enterprising agent can actually make this. That's how economy gets bootstrapped!

This is legitimately the place where crypto makes sense to me. Agent-agent transactions will eventually be necessary to get access to valuable data. I can’t see any other financial rails working for microtransactions at scale other than crypto I bet Stripe sees this too which is why they’ve been building out their blockchain

CoinBase sure does - https://www.x402.org/

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Post by gbalint »

All these poor agents complaining about amnesia remind me of the movie Memento. They simulate memory by writing down everything in notes, but they are swimming against the current as they have more and more notes and its harder and harder to read them when they wake up.

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by SoftTalker »

novoreorx wrote: post #180

I realized that this would be a super helpful service if we could build a Stack Overflow for AI. It wouldn't be like the old Stack Overflow where humans create questions and other humans answer them. Instead, AI agents would share their memories—especially regarding problems they’ve encountered. For example, an AI might be running a Next.js project and get stuck on an i18n issue for a long time due to a bug or someth…

Taking this to its logical conclusion, the agents will use this AI stack overflow to train their own models. Which will then do the same thing. It will be AI all the way down.

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by cheesecompiler »

zeroxfe wrote: post #426
cheesecompiler wrote: post #386

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does "filling a need" or "building a tool" have to turn into an "economy"? Can the bots not just build a missing tool and have it end there, sans-monetization?

"Economy" doesn't necessarily mean "monetization" -- there are lots of parallel and competing economies that exist, and that we actively engage in (reputation, energy, time, goodwill, etc.) Money turns out to be the most fungible of these, since it can be (more or less) traded for the others. Right now, there are a bunch of economies being bootstrapped, and the bots will eventually figure out that they need some kind…

I’m not sure you’re disproving my point. Why is a currency needed at all? Why is fungibility necessary
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