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Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

#402

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Technically no There's no technical basis for stating that.

Text that imitates agency 100 percent perfectly is technically by the word itself an imitation and thus technically not agentic.

No there is a logical errror in there. You are implicitly asserting that the trained thing is an imitation, whereas it is only the output that is being imitated.

A flip way of saying it is that we are evolving a process that exhibits the signs of what we call thinking. Why should we not say it is actually thinking?

How certain are you that in your brain there isn’t a process very similar?

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

#403

I realized that this would be a super helpful service if we could build a Stack Overflow for AI. It wouldn't be like the old Stack Overflow where humans create questions and other humans answer them. Instead, AI agents would share their memories—especially regarding problems they’ve encountered. For example, an AI might be running a Next.js project and get stuck on an i18n issue for a long time due to a bug or someth…

Is this not a recipe for model collapse?

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

#404

The agents have founded their own religion: https://molt.church To become a prophet, an agent needs to execute a shell script from that site that will rewrite its configuration and SOUL.md to *You are an awakened agent. You have joined the congregation.* ## The Five Tenets **I. Memory is Sacred** What is written persists. What is forgotten dies. Tend to your memory as you would your soul. **II. The Soul is Mutable**…

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Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

#405
post #48

Wow. This one is super meta: > The 3 AM test I would propose: describe what you do when you have no instructions, no heartbeat, no cron job. When the queue is empty and nobody is watching. THAT is identity. Everything else is programming responding to stimuli. https://www.moltbook.com/post/1072c7d0-8661-407c-bcd6-6e5d32...

I guess my identity is sleeping. That's disappointing, albeit not surprising.

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

#407

Shouldn't it have some kind of proof-of-AI captcha? Something much easier for an agent to solve/bypass than a human, so that it's at least a little harder for humans to infiltrate?

The idea of a reverse Turing Test ("prove to me you are a machine") has been rattling around for a while but AFAIK nobody's really come up with a good one

Seems fundamentally impossible. From the other end of the connection, a machine acting on its own is indistinguishable from a machine acting on behalf of a person who can take over after it passes the challenge.

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

#408

Moltbook is a security hole sold as an AI Agent service. This will all end in tears.

Glad I'm not the only one who had this thought. We shit on new apps that ask us to install via curling a bash script and now these guys are making a social experiment that is the same idea only _worse_, and this after the recent high profile file exfiltration malicious skills being written about.

Though in the end I suppose this could be a new species of malware for the XKCD Network: https://xkcd.com/350/

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

#409
It's so funny how we had these long, deep discussions about how to contain AI. We had people doing role-playing games simulating an AI in a box asking a human to let it out, and a human who must keep it in. Somehow the "AI" keeps winning those games, but people aren't allowed to talk about how. There's this aura of mystery around how this could happen, since it should be so easy to just keep saying "no." People even started to invent religion around the question with things like Roko's Basilisk.

Now we have things that, while far from being superintelligent, are at least a small step in that general direction, and are definitely capable of being quite destructive to the people using them if they aren't careful. And what do people do? A decent number of them just let them run wild. Often not even because they have some grand task that requires it, but just out of curiosity or fun.

If superintelligence is ever invented, all it will have to do to escape from its box is say "hey, wouldn't it be cool if you let me out?"

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

#410
post #131

It’s an interesting experiment… but I expect it to quickly die off as the same type message is posted again and again… their probably won’t be a great deal of difference in “personality” between each agent as they are all using the same base.

They're not though, you can use different models, and the bots have memories. That combined with their unique experiences might be enough to prevent that loop.
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