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Want to be successful? Be inconsistent

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Re: Want to be successful? Be inconsistent

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Unrelated to the article itself: OP, cut down on all the social-share-widget-scroll-js-be-my-friend nonsense on your blog. It's irritating, obnoxious and doesn't make me want to share or retweet or do anything except get the hell off your page. I've read several of your blog posts and cringe each and every single time. Two scrolling widgets and a popup in the bottom corner as soon as you start to scroll down? Huffing…

I'd like it if the middle column were the only part of the page.

I agree perhaps it's too much.

Interestingly, it looks rather nice, clean and readable (IMO) without everything else (here's a screenshot: http://joelg.cc/KJp5/o). Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that have everything else there makes a big difference. I could probably remove the ad, but a lot of the rest definitely works, I have some data on it.

Thanks for the heads up though, I think maybe my incremental changes have meant I've gone too far on all this stuff without perhaps realising.

Re: Want to be successful? Be inconsistent

#14

Changing your mind and being inconsistent are not the same thing. Stupid article.

You obviously didn't read the same article that some of us did :S

Your comment obviously adds nothing to the discussion, having no explanation.

You obviously didn't get the same kind of education that some of us did.

:)

Re: Want to be successful? Be inconsistent

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like it if the middle column were the only part of the page.

I agree perhaps it's too much. Interestingly, it looks rather nice, clean and readable (IMO) without everything else (here's a screenshot: http://joelg.cc/KJp5/o ). Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that have everything else there makes a big difference. I could probably remove the ad, but a lot of the rest definitely works, I have some data on it. Thanks for the heads up though, I think maybe my incremental changes hav…

The one-column layout looks great.

I think you can improve things and keep the social integration, though. Right now, it's a three column layout, and the first column is basically empty. Which feels strange. If you move the left-hand icons somewhere else - to the right hand side, or to below the article, and centre the header on the content column, it will make a big difference. The fact that the header doesn't line up with the content really bugs me.

Those are the biggest things to change, but there are some smaller tweaks that would improve it too. The sub-header ("Startups, life, learning and happiness") seems very similar to the little description in the right hand column ("I'm the founder of Buffer..."); so those could be combined (keep the subtitle, and either replace it with the description text or just lose that text). Then the nav bar would come down to be level with the start of the article.

Consistency throughout a design is key. That would be the next thing to tweak for. The Join/RSS/Follow/Subscribe have slightly different callouts - they should be the same. (Or you could go a step farther and lose the callouts all together, which would probably look better.) The necessity of the big blue box explaining about the email service seems dubious ("subscribe via email" effectively says what needs to be said). However, if it stays, it would be nice if it matched the colour scheme better - yes, it's the same blue as elsewhere, but that blue isn't used in the same way anywhere else - if the background was the grey from right above it might match better. Also, just so you know, in Firefox the email field/button is too wide for the column and it's wrapping to two lines. Once we're on colour schemes, the orange of the RSS icon stands out a bit too much in contrast to everything else on the sight. For me, the email box and the RSS icon pop out even more than the header or the content when I look at the page. If all the buttons matched in colour (that silver is good), it would be great.

Also, the social stuff at the bottom of the article feels redundant.

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Anyway, I don't know what data you have on it, but I think that if people are telling you that the design is pushing them away, you should think very carefully about that. IMO, those people are more important than whatever anonymous data points, because they're clearly people who are interested and engaged. If you have to lose one or two tweets in exchange for some loyal followers, that sounds worth it to me.

Re: Want to be successful? Be inconsistent

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Accepting the other comments about how perhaps the title could be improved, the basic point is one that I wish would be more widely accepted in political discourse. It seems like whenever a politician changes his mind, he's accused of "flip-flopping", as though always sticking to exactly the same opinions is the most desirable option. But personally, I would not trust anyone who seems to think that they were right about everything the first time, and never needed to learn anything new.

Re: Want to be successful? Be inconsistent

#19

Unrelated to the article itself: OP, cut down on all the social-share-widget-scroll-js-be-my-friend nonsense on your blog. It's irritating, obnoxious and doesn't make me want to share or retweet or do anything except get the hell off your page. I've read several of your blog posts and cringe each and every single time. Two scrolling widgets and a popup in the bottom corner as soon as you start to scroll down? Huffing…

If you count the 'Recommended Article' widget that pops in about half way down there's 3 widgets that follow you down. Way too distracting.

Re: Want to be successful? Be inconsistent

#20

Be Inconsistent? No. Be able to admit you were wrong and make choices that contradict past believes after learning or observing something new? Yes.

second this. When a change involves breaking your promises to people who genuinely relied on them and will suffer as the result - then you have to make sure that they are at least ok with it by giving them alternative options / compensation.

Its not about to be / or not to be inconsistent. It's about making the right choice given new information as well as considering the net effect of the change.

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