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I'm relatively new here. Why did this thread disappear off the front page? At 72 points in an hour, it ought to be by far the top post. The current leader is 67 points in 5 hours. Are things that get up-modded that fast dropped as off-topic? Thanks!
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How can you be sure they're not part of a fringe cult that doesn't require head coverings but still kills people for making eye contact?
30+ years of experience has given me enough confidence that the chance of that happening is pretty low. Honor killings and female mutilation is statistically higher than non-head-covering eye-contact-killings. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing_in_the_United_Sta...
Women who wear head scarves while being perfectly happy to make eye contact are statistically higher than both, by a huge margin.
However, I also agree that we, human beings, run to stigmatize an entire community rather quickly. For example, much of the Indian community in India thinks that "white" folks are more promiscuous. All of them. It is a widespread notion that they are ready for sex. There is no research that I can cite and only a few personal experiences and examples. e.g. http://www.whiteindianhousewife.com/2012/04/the-other-side-o...
How can these things change?
An exercise more people should partake in. Sometimes on HN I find it shocking just how completely clueless some of our prolific commentators are re: prejudice, whether by race, gender, creed, orientation, or anything else. The number of times I've seen people in privileged positions try to downplay, trivialize, and belittle those struggling with prejudice has made me want to quit HN more than once. Walking a mile in…
And honestly, do you think the person who posted this Tumblr cares what anyone on HN thinks?
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Interesting that you think "look at you funny" and "called me a terrorist" are equivalent.
The latter was said by a child, so it's not even worth talking about. The mother acted wrongly, not the child. But lets twist it, only without the masquerade: Imagine 'Ela' is on holiday in the Near East and wears a tank top. Don't you think that people would 'look funny at her'? She also might get molested for not being dressed properly. Local women even get stoned for that.
This thread makes me very sad and happy at the same time. So many of the comments show an ignorance I thought to be a thing of the past or at least taboo. But there seems to be just as many other commenters trying to help educate and enlighten, it's great to see that we are at least making progress.
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Some of us have walked in the others' shoes, at least in this limited case of discrimination based solely on clothing. Guess what? Humans discriminate on clothing! You can drum up the social justice network and try to remove this neural programming without drugs, good luck with that. You can try and fight it, again, sincerely, good luck, I agree that clothing is irrelevant when judging other people, but I don't think…
If I were a muslim girl getting discriminated against for wearing a hijab, I'd stop wearing the hijab. So you would, I guess, also suggest that Sikhs should stop wearing turbans, Jews should stop wearing a kippah, nuns should stop wearing habits, pagans should stop wearing pentangles, etc. Not only is your suggestion frankly both offensive and pretty idiotic, but the world it would lead to would have even more discri…
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If I were a muslim girl getting discriminated against for wearing a hijab, I'd stop wearing the hijab. So you would, I guess, also suggest that Sikhs should stop wearing turbans, Jews should stop wearing a kippah, nuns should stop wearing habits, pagans should stop wearing pentangles, etc. Not only is your suggestion frankly both offensive and pretty idiotic, but the world it would lead to would have even more discri…
I think that is indeed what he is saying. No it is not idiotic, because: 1) Religion is foolish and anti-progressive 2) Religion has a diminishing place in American culture 3) Everyone in America knows it, espeKorany the enlightened among us 4) Traditions of religious origin are silly, especially if they cause difficulty in one's life 5) We (the majority) do not care that much if your feelings are hurt because of a c…
"7) The world's conservative Christian community has brought this upon themselves... by being or supporting murderous psychopaths, by promoting mostly bullshit religious dogma that may not actually be part of the bible, and by being some of the most Xenophobic of all cultures the world has ever seen."
And it would make as much sense. Which is not a lot really, as from your argument it is surely also fine to persecute people dressed even slightly like americans, in those countries which america has attacked, if it is fine to persecute people wearing headscarves, for an extremist attack over a decade ago.
Also, if you want to round up the litany of death from dogma, athiest states have been just as destructive as religious ones over the past hundred years or so.
[edit] I have personally have found that generic religious/philosophic affiliation (Buddhist, Athiest, Christian, etc) seems to have very little bearing on if someone will be a dickhead, and also that all large affiliations seem to have their fair share of them. Claiming rationality about the lack of evidence for god, for instance, does not make people necessarily any more rational in other spheres, and also it doesn't automatically make them any nicer.
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I wonder why you choose to compare your country to "one of those countries" when you clearly indicate you think they are not as good as yours? You are like the coach of a sporting team pointing out all the teams that finished lower than yours on the ladder and saying "We did great compared to them . Good job. Keep it up." Surely, if you were actually interested in improving your team, you would point out the teams th…
"One of those" saved time over naming off each country, considering everyone knows which countries I'm referring to. And is my country better? Um... Yeah. By orders of magnitudes it's better.
You missed the point. Everyone knows the sports team that constantly finishes in the middle of field is better than those below. OK, we get it.
Why are you so concerned with comparing America to the countries that everyone knows are "lower" than America?
If you actually had any interest in improving, you'd be looking at those countries higher than America, and you'd notice the gap between America and the top of the ladder is growing very, very quickly.