Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't get it...
I think he's saying that Oracle's aggressive branding of MySQL (and other Sun products) has alienated some people.
Why does that matter, when Oracle already powers Salesforce?
Salesforce will hire 40-50 Postgres people
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think he's saying that Oracle's aggressive branding of MySQL (and other Sun products) has alienated some people.
Why does that matter, when Oracle already powers Salesforce?
Right. I don't agree with the OP, I just think that's what he was saying. Salesforce doesn't seem like someone to be put off by aggressive anything.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually hiring 50 people sounds more like a decisive plan than "exploring a strategic bet".
The posting says they're hiring only 5 now, 40-50 next year;I inferred they're still in an exploratory phase because if they were all in, they'd be hiring more than 5 now. The posting doesn't say they're doing a migration but having worked on Oracle -> PostgreSQL migrations and sharded database infrastructures, it makes sense.
Of course nothing is ever final, but publicly announcing something like this is already sort of a "fuck you" to Oracle, so I'd be surprised if they weren't a 100% sure of their plans to switch.
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#24With Oracle slowly transforming MySQL into a 'free-open-core, closed-outer-shell' RDBMS[1], PostgreSQL is quickly becoming the main go-to alternative for anyone who wants to avoid database vendor lock-in. Hopefully SalesForce will contribute its improvements back to the PostgreSQL community. -- [1] For example, see http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4400797
Where's the evidence? The linked source refers to closing test cases, which makes it more closed source, not open core.
Also, it is highly entertaining that most PostgreSQL news here tend to dwell to MySQL.
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#25the lists of pgsql contributors and committersdoesnt look that big
http://www.postgresql.org/community/contributors/
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Committers
Are they gonna hire them all :))) I bet most of their hires will be ppl who never touched pgsql
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#27I wonder if this has anything to do with Heroku or eventually will; Postgres is very much one of Heroku's core offerings.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
The posting says they're hiring only 5 now, 40-50 next year;I inferred they're still in an exploratory phase because if they were all in, they'd be hiring more than 5 now. The posting doesn't say they're doing a migration but having worked on Oracle -> PostgreSQL migrations and sharded database infrastructures, it makes sense.
Of course nothing is ever final, but publicly announcing something like this is already sort of a "fuck you" to Oracle, so I'd be surprised if they weren't a 100% sure of their plans to switch.
Though the plan might be to negotiate cheaper Oracle licenses..
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#29This is why. Every time I launch MySQL client: Welcome to the MySQL monitor. Commands end with ; or \g. Your MySQL connection id is 1024604 Server version: 5.1.63-0ubuntu0.10.04.1-log (Ubuntu) Copyright (c) 2000, 2011, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Oracle is a registered trademark of Oracle Corporation and/or its affiliates. Other names may be trademarks of their respective owners.
What's the significance of this? Will Oracle shut down MySQL developement?
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#30Please clarify: Is [a-zA-Z]*SQL a query language or is it software (i.e. an implementation of an interpreter for a language)?