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Tesla ending Models S and X production

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Re: Tesla ending Models S and X production

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Post by operation_moose »

angled wrote: post #473
shalmanese wrote: post #379

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> Common sense product could be something smaller than Model 3 for Europe and this car would eat Chinese for lunch. Yeah, that would be the Model 2, which Musk cancelled, then denied he cancelled, then has made no effort to review whatsoever so it exists in a limbo state of zero people working on it but it not being officially cancelled. Either way, it didn't come out in 2025 as planned. https://www.cbtnews.com/tesla…

The completed original line up was S 3 X Y The C didn’t fit that, nor would a 2. Unless he’s aiming for a lineup of products that has you seeing someone next Tuesday.

And he couldn't get E (the original intended name) because Ford had it trademarked.

Re: Tesla ending Models S and X production

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Post by dambon »

angled wrote: post #473
shalmanese wrote: post #379

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Common sense product could be something smaller than Model 3 for Europe and this car would eat Chinese for lunch. Yeah, that would be the Model 2, which Musk cancelled, then denied he cancelled, then has made no effort to review whatsoever so it exists in a limbo state of zero people working on it but it not being officially cancelled. Either way, it didn't come out in 2025 as planned. https://www.cbtnews.com/tesla…

The completed original line up was S 3 X Y The C didn’t fit that, nor would a 2. Unless he’s aiming for a lineup of products that has you seeing someone next Tuesday.

2 S 3 X Y?

Re: Tesla ending Models S and X production

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

piva00 wrote: post #384
haspok wrote: post #360

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That's all good, don't worry, the stock is doing quite well, near its record high. A man jumping around in spandex is all they need.

It's actually bizarre how seemingly nothing impacts $TSLA: profits down 46%, revenue down 3%, cutting successful product lines that used to sell quite a bit, a massively failed product in the Cybertruck, FSD promises still unfulfilled, and on top of all that US$ 2 billion siphoned away to another unrelated company. With all of that, the stock closed upwards on the after market hours. Perhaps only Musk's death could c…

It’s being valued on the hope that they will crack full self driving. People still believe they will crack it.

Re: Tesla ending Models S and X production

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Post by Slartie »

hnlmorg wrote: post #443
rswail wrote: post #334

So he milked Tesla for another $2B to subsidize xAI, has dropped the models to 2 (3 and Y), revenue is down, growth is negative, BYD is eating Tesla for lunch, followed by the other CN and KR vehicle companies. He doesn't have FSD, camera only navigation without sensor fusion with LIDAR will fail, the only thing keeping Tesla where it is is the bullshit dispersal field that surrounds Musk.

> the only thing keeping Tesla where it is is the bullshit dispersal field that surrounds Musk. I'm not 100% what you mean by "dispersal field", but outside of America, Elon's image in recent years has done more harm to Tesla than good.

I think he meant "keeping TSLA where it is".

Tesla's sales have suffered, yes, and Elon's image is a significant contributor to that, besides all the reasons directly related to the cars themselves.

But Tesla's stock price is still stuck in irrational heights, not even remotely justifiable by the company's performance.

It just seems that people reconsider purchasing a physical object way quicker than they reconsider a stock investment. Maybe because the stock investment, especially in TSLA, is considered more like a gamble - "as long as others also think that this stock will skyrocket, even just because they think that others like me think it will skyrocket - as long as that's the case, I'm good with buying shares".

Re: Tesla ending Models S and X production

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Post by brightball »

rswail wrote: post #334

So he milked Tesla for another $2B to subsidize xAI, has dropped the models to 2 (3 and Y), revenue is down, growth is negative, BYD is eating Tesla for lunch, followed by the other CN and KR vehicle companies. He doesn't have FSD, camera only navigation without sensor fusion with LIDAR will fail, the only thing keeping Tesla where it is is the bullshit dispersal field that surrounds Musk.

I assume the S and X are being cancelled because 3 and Y are cannibalizing them with a very close product for a much better price point. Both have premium trim options. There’s very little difference in interior space. Aside from the doors on the X there’s just not much differentiation.

Re: Tesla ending Models S and X production

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Post by throw20251220 »

dambon wrote: post #493
angled wrote: post #473

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The completed original line up was S 3 X Y The C didn’t fit that, nor would a 2. Unless he’s aiming for a lineup of products that has you seeing someone next Tuesday.

2 S 3 X Y?

Fit a robotaxi, a semi, and a cyberfuck into this, the meme is complete.

Re: Tesla ending Models S and X production

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Post by jfyi »

philipallstar wrote: post #471
mattmanser wrote: post #430

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Everyone knew that was the future and that the big auto manufacturers were deliberately dragging. No-one (serious) thought there was a market for the cybertruck. The stock price is pure madness, it's like it's priced in robotaxis, but that's clearly not going to happen for Tesla. And if it did, it would be a small-ish market, their brand has become toxic in so many big markets.

> Everyone knew that was the future and that the big auto manufacturers were deliberately dragging. Definitely not. Car electrification was definitely not obvious, and Tesla had to do many semi-impossible things to make it even slightly feasible.

>Car electrification was definitely not obvious

The first electric car predates the 20th century. That seems pretty obvious.

The problem was always batteries and charging infrastructure. I wouldn't call these semi-impossible, but it's something Tesla definitely contributed significantly to.

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