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Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Is this a sign that us of the plebs are starting to grow discontent?

it's certainly a change from the "inevitability" vomit the boosters were emitting this time last year

Oh, I mean they’re still doing that too:

https://www.darioamodei.com/essay/the-adolescence-of-technol...

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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How? They are all losing tens of billions of dollars on this, so far. Open source models are available at highly competitive prices for anyone to use and are closing the gap to 6-8 months from frontier proprietary models. There doesn't appear to be any moat. This criticism seems very valid against advertising and social media, where strong network effects make dominant players ultra-wealthy and act like a tax, but th…

>Open source models are available at highly competitive prices for anyone to use and are closing the gap to 6-8 months from frontier proprietary models. What happens when the AI bubble is over and developers of open models doesn't want to incinerate money anymore? Foundation models aren't like curl or openssl. You can't have maintain it with a few engineer's free time.

Training is really cheap compared to the basically free inference being handed out by openai Anthropic Google etc.

Spending a million dollars on training and giving the model for free is far cheaper than hundreds of millions of dollars spent on inference every month and charging a few hundred thousand for it.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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AI is alien intelligence, really. If biotech created an unusual mold that responds to electric impulses the way LLMs do, we would rightfully declare that this mold has some sort of intelligence and for this reason it is, technically speaking, an alien lifeform. AI is just that intelligent mold, but based on transistors instead of organic cells. Needless to say, it's a bad idea to create a competing lifeform that's sm…

Hey, I just wanted to say, big fan of your work on vixra.org

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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guys were just trying to take jobs away from you.... please stop being mean to us - richest people on earth 2026

You forgot... "by stealing from artists and writers at scale".

The picture will be incomplete if we don't mention that those 'artists and writers' are using the results at scale.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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How? They are all losing tens of billions of dollars on this, so far. Open source models are available at highly competitive prices for anyone to use and are closing the gap to 6-8 months from frontier proprietary models. There doesn't appear to be any moat. This criticism seems very valid against advertising and social media, where strong network effects make dominant players ultra-wealthy and act like a tax, but th…

I'm not so sure thats correct. The Labs seem to offer the best overall products in addition to the best models. And requirements for models are only going to get more complex and stringent going forward. So yes, open source will be able to keep up from a pure performance standpoint, but you can imagine a future state where only licensed models are able to be used in commercial settings and licensing will require comp…

What’s the purpose of licensing requiring though things though if someone could just use an open source model to do that anyway? If someone were going to do those things you mentioned why do it through some commercial enterprise tool? I can see maybe licensing requiring a certain level of hardening to prevent prompt injections, but ultimately it still really comes down to how much power you give the model in whatever context it’s operating in.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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The recipe of coke is not a copyright, it is a trade secret. Trade secrets can remain indefinitely if you can keep it secret. Copyrights are "open" by their nature.

In the context of this discussion though, what makes you think openai can't keep theirs a trade secret?

I was agreeing it could last a very long time, even longer that copyright. But specifically because it is not copyright. But as an AI model, it just won't have value for very long. Models are dated within a 6 months and obsolete in 2 years. IP around development may last longer.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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How? They are all losing tens of billions of dollars on this, so far. Open source models are available at highly competitive prices for anyone to use and are closing the gap to 6-8 months from frontier proprietary models. There doesn't appear to be any moat. This criticism seems very valid against advertising and social media, where strong network effects make dominant players ultra-wealthy and act like a tax, but th…

I'm not so sure thats correct. The Labs seem to offer the best overall products in addition to the best models. And requirements for models are only going to get more complex and stringent going forward. So yes, open source will be able to keep up from a pure performance standpoint, but you can imagine a future state where only licensed models are able to be used in commercial settings and licensing will require comp…

If that's the case, the winner will likely be cloud providers (AWS, GCP, Azure) who do compliance and enterprise very well.

If Open Source can keep up from a pure performance standpoint, any one of these cloud providers should be able to provide it as a managed service and make money that way.

Then OpenAI, Anthropic, etc end up becoming product companies. The winner is who has the most addictive AI product, not who has the most advanced model.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How? They are all losing tens of billions of dollars on this, so far. Open source models are available at highly competitive prices for anyone to use and are closing the gap to 6-8 months from frontier proprietary models. There doesn't appear to be any moat. This criticism seems very valid against advertising and social media, where strong network effects make dominant players ultra-wealthy and act like a tax, but th…

>losing tens of billions They are investing 10s of billions.

They are washing 10s of billions of dollars an an industry-wide attempt to keep the music playing

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Explain how to nicely criticize computer software that allows for the generation of sexually explicit images of children.

Photoshop has been around for a long time.

And canvases and paint have existed for even longer, but it needs someone skilled to make use of it.

Stable Diffusion enabled the average lazy depraved person to create these images with zero effort, and there's a lot of these people in the world apparently.

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