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Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Post by stemlord »

pear01 wrote: post #120
justarandomname wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah, but zero chance of that happening unfortunately.

well practiced cynicism is boring. imo there are actually too few answers for what a better path would even look like. hard to move forward when you don't know where you want to go. answers in the negative are insufficient, as are those that offer little more than nostalgia.

people have been pretty clear about a positive path forward

- big tech should pay for the data they extract and sell back to us

- startups should stop forcing ai features that no one wants down our throats

- the vanguard of ai should be open and accessible to all not locked in the cloud behind paywalls

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Post by greesil »

pear01 wrote: post #120
justarandomname wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah, but zero chance of that happening unfortunately.

well practiced cynicism is boring. imo there are actually too few answers for what a better path would even look like. hard to move forward when you don't know where you want to go. answers in the negative are insufficient, as are those that offer little more than nostalgia.

Well practiced criticism of cynicism is boring

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Post by seizethecheese »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #84
seizethecheese wrote: post #33

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I don’t, actually, unless you call index funds “tied up”. To be honest, it’s really distasteful to make a high level comment about this article then have people rush to attack me personally. This is the mentality of a mob.

One thing this characterization is not is honest.

What part is not honest?

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Post by overgard »

soulofmischief wrote: post #39
jacquesm wrote: post #7

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You forgot about 'open source contributors' and 'musicians'.

As an open source contributor and musician who is not rich, I am pretty stoked about the engineering, scientific and mathematical advancements being made in my lifetime. I have only become more creatively enabled when adopting these tools, and while I share the existential dread of becoming unemployable, I also am wearing machine-fabricated clothing and enjoying a host of other products of automation. I do not have s…

Well, if you consider Maslow's hierarchy of needs, "creatively enabled" would be a luxury at the top of the pyramid with "self actualization". Luxuries don't matter if the things at the bottom of the pyramid aren't there -- i.e. you can't eat or put a shelter over your head. I think the big AI players really need a coherent plan for this if they don't want a lot of mainstream and eventually legislative pushback. Not to mention it's bad business if nobody can afford to use AI because they're unemployed. (I'm not anti-AI, it's an interesting tool, but I think the way it's being developed is inviting a lot of danger for very marginal returns so far)

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Post by mrwaffle »

quantum_state wrote: post #88

Viewed from historical perspective, big tech is really reaping the benefits of the intellectual wealth accumulated over many thousands of years by humanity collectively. This should be recognized to find a better path forward.

Is this technically a form of retroactive mind rape? If so, at least we have the right oligarchic friends experienced in this running the big show. (Apologies if I just any broke rules here).

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Post by mrnaught »

seizethecheese wrote: post #5

> There’s an extremely hurtful narrative going around that my product, a revolutionary new technology that exists to scam the elderly and make you distrust anything you see online, is harmful to society The article is certainly interesting as yet another indicator of the backlash against AI, but I must say, “exists to scam the elderly” is totally absurd. I get that this is satire, but satire has to have some basis in…

>> enabled by the internet, does the internet exist for this purpose? Of course not.

I think point article was trying to make: LLMs and new genAI tools helped the scammers scale their operations.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Post by TheDong »

jacquesm wrote: post #7
GolfPopper wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You forgot... "by stealing from artists and writers at scale".

You forgot about 'open source contributors' and 'musicians'.

You're saying "musicians" aren't "artists", and "open source contributors" aren't artists _or_ writers? Artists covers both of the groups you said.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Post by jacquesm »

overgard wrote: post #134
soulofmischief wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an open source contributor and musician who is not rich, I am pretty stoked about the engineering, scientific and mathematical advancements being made in my lifetime. I have only become more creatively enabled when adopting these tools, and while I share the existential dread of becoming unemployable, I also am wearing machine-fabricated clothing and enjoying a host of other products of automation. I do not have s…

Well, if you consider Maslow's hierarchy of needs, "creatively enabled" would be a luxury at the top of the pyramid with "self actualization". Luxuries don't matter if the things at the bottom of the pyramid aren't there -- i.e. you can't eat or put a shelter over your head. I think the big AI players really need a coherent plan for this if they don't want a lot of mainstream and eventually legislative pushback. Not…

> I think the big AI players really need a coherent plan for this if they don't want a lot of mainstream and eventually legislative pushback.

That's by far not the worst that could happen. There could very well be an axe attached to the pendulum when it swings back.

> Not to mention it's bad business if nobody can afford to use AI because they're unemployed.

In that sense this is the opposite of the Ford story: the value of your contribution to the process will approach zero so that you won't be able to afford the product of your work.

Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Post by [deleted] »

FridayoLeary wrote: post #113
quantum_state wrote: post #88

Viewed from historical perspective, big tech is really reaping the benefits of the intellectual wealth accumulated over many thousands of years by humanity collectively. This should be recognized to find a better path forward.

Sounds like you just want some of their money.

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Re: Please don't say mean things about the AI I just invested a billion dollars in

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Post by rgmerk »

NicuCalcea wrote: post #126
seizethecheese wrote: post #44

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Not at all. I’m saying AI doesn’t exist to scam elderly , which is saying nothing about whether it’s dangerous in that respect.

I can't think of many other reasons to create voice cloning AI, or deepfake AI (other than porn, of course).

There are legitimate applications - fixing a tiny mistake in the dialogue in a movie in the edit suite, for instance.

Do these legitimate applications justify making these tools available to every scammer, domestic abuser, child porn consumer, and sundry other categories of criminal? Almost certainly not.

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