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In 6 violent encounters, evidence contradicts immigration officials' narratives

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Re: In 6 violent encounters, evidence contradicts immigration officials' narratives

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Citing an AI tweet hardly screams accurate. They're killing American citizens with immunity. Enjoy the taste of boot leather in your mouth dude.

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You send in the Calvary to get this straw Juan of yours, you don’t sick them on the state of Minnesota

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Nonviolent crowd control does not seem to be a core competence of these federal forces. They should augment deployed enforcement with those who have such expertise.

That's the what the state police is for... the one that Minnesota refused to deploy to help ICE when the Good and Pretti situations happened.

The state police are not "for" non-violent enforcement.

Re: In 6 violent encounters, evidence contradicts immigration officials' narratives

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Citing an AI tweet hardly screams accurate. They're killing American citizens with immunity. Enjoy the taste of boot leather in your mouth dude.

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According to your own numbers, Clinton and Obama managed to to deport 15 million people, and somehow they managed to do it without executing any citizens in the street.

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This is not a political calculus. Nobody with half a brain believes that Trump's choices are about efficiently deporting people here illegally; they are designed to intimidate and punish his opponents while making the US more authoritarian. The government cannot send out masked, untrained goon squads to bust down doors without warrants or probable cause. They are forbidden from doing that by the Constitution. The "in…

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1st amendment denier

Re: In 6 violent encounters, evidence contradicts immigration officials' narratives

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> officials rushed to defend immigration officers without waiting for key facts to emerge – in what former immigration officials called a clear break with past practice for federal agencies Without obscuring how bad is it, I don't believe there was ever a time when officials _didn't_ rush to defend federal officers without waiting for key facts to emerge. The us government has constantly loved to say that no one work…

I think to an extent Trump is a fall guy, even when it comes to Venezuela he was dragged through the mud where his predecessors have constantly undermined the sovereignty of other nations and attacked them under the guise of protecting the US from terrorism when it was about oil and mineral ritches [1], the same with the deportation centers which while they were getting some criticism it was nowhere near the level of slander that there is towards the current admin doing the same thing.

[1] https://youtu.be/C3LFbOSPfrE

Re: In 6 violent encounters, evidence contradicts immigration officials' narratives

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Calling American citizens domestic terrorists 30 mins after they were shot dead by agents of the President's shiny new initiative is a bit of an escalation on the generic government face-saving responses. The rhetoric is escalating and dangerous.

Is it? I really don't think so. You don't remember the whole "superpredator" thing? Every time a black dude is shot, they'll start talking about how he must have been some kinda criminal. People of color have been suffering this shit forever. Sure, the Internet makes things faster, but the policies are the same.

in that case, it seems like as good of a time to stop as ever

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This is not a political calculus. Nobody with half a brain believes that Trump's choices are about efficiently deporting people here illegally; they are designed to intimidate and punish his opponents while making the US more authoritarian. The government cannot send out masked, untrained goon squads to bust down doors without warrants or probable cause. They are forbidden from doing that by the Constitution. The "in…

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"The beatings will continue until morale improves."

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You're employing some polarizing language yourself. Calling people "illegals" because of their immigration status demeans them. Beyond that, this language is often used to justify illegal restrictions of their civil rights. Immigrants, regardless of their legal status, have civil rights and human rights.
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