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If you can’t explain it, then you don’t actually understand it.

i just don't feel like enumerating all of the common patterns ai slop produces. again, if you don't see this as obvious, i can tell you're clearly not using this stuff often enough (which might be a good thing)

The thing is, these stylistic patterns existed before AI, and weren’t completely atypical. Maybe you’re using LLMs so much that you’re over-associating them with AI now. Or maybe the author is using LLMs so much that he’s unconsciously adopted some of the patterns in his own writing.

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> it seems to me there are enough american job seekers in CS to justify not needing H1B. Anecdotal so hold on to your salt but in my social circle here in the US natural-born US citizens vs visa-holders self-select for types of jobs. For example, if my the starting pay is Not saying my US friends are uppity as much as visa holders are desperate.

I suppose that is "in the tech field" too, as non-tech people would be happy with an $80K job where a lot are under $50K I will say my first tech job was $40K and now I have to have a six-fig job just because of my debt.

> I suppose that is "in the tech field" too, as non-tech people would be happy with an $80K job where a lot are under $50K

Indeed. The median salary in America for full time employment is a little over $63K.

Edit: if the message from H1B folk earning $300k+ to voters who earn $63k on average[1] is "You need our superior intellects, you uneducated rubes", then its unlikely to be well-received, especially at a time when blaming foreigners is in vogue.

1. Or a laid-off American tech worker

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It's not really on them to think of an example to disprove themselves? Do you have one in mind?

Ok let's try this another way: if you are a big online retailer in a country, you will not have a big corporate presence in that country. Now it's on you to think of an example to disprove me, certainly I'm not going to think an example to disprove myself. Do you see the problem with this pattern? I could claim all sorts of things and then say, well sorry you have to go do all this work to refute my claims. Something…

Sure, they've already done it, Amazon, in India.

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I'm not american, but it seems to me there are enough american job seekers in CS to justify not needing H1B. I'm not sure anyway what is the relationship between the potential difficulty of hiring new folks, and firing current folks in USA to offshore roles, are relates.

> there are enough american job seekers in CS To be blunt: Not enough qualified ones. Look at the names of all the top AI papers of the past 3 years, not too many are American. When you get bullied in American public schools for being a "nerd" and liking science and math, your country doesn't exactly produce a lot of state-of-the-art STEM professionals. You get a small handful of exceptional people who overcame the a…

What's an American name? Are you referring to WASP (White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant) names?

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>Amazon axes 16,000 American jobs as it ... relocates to a larger campus in India https://techcrunch.com/2025/12/10/amazon-to-invest-additiona...

I realize it’s easy to pattern-match this news to 'hiring in India vs. firing in US' given the current climate, but having worked at Amazon India for 4 years, I can tell you the cuts happen there too. Amazon has a history of annual restructuring that hits every region. It isn't necessarily a direct relocation strategy so much as their standard operational churn. The 'efficiency' cuts are happening globally, India inc…

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> H1-B is stupid on its face. You're seriously telling me that this software engineering job absolutely cannot be filled by an American? That doesn't pass the laugh test. The job description is a senior full stack product developer fluent in all programming languages and frameworks. Salary is $70,000/year. Somehow they can never find Americans to fill those jobs. They'll go on Linkedin complaining that Americans are…

That seems low. Is it a corporate strategy to set a low salary and when nobody local fills it (because it's below the competitive rate) they get to hire H1-B?

Yes.

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> "economists" expected major inflation Gold front runs monetary policy and "economists" aren't the only ones trading that. Look at the gold chart for the past year. I don't think it's really disputed that high inflation is on the horizon due to the debt situation (which Trump has made worse with the OBBB) > there are benefits to the economy as well when the currency is less strong Care to list those? I can think of…

> I don't think it's really disputed that high inflation is on the horizon This is moving the goalpost because you know economists (the critics) forecasted major inflation sooner/now, and it hasn't happened. > Care to list those? [...] it assumes that we're already in the position of being an export based economy which we're not and not tangibly working towards. You're not making sense or making coherent thoughts. Th…

> This is moving the goalpost because you know economists (the critics) forecasted major inflation sooner/now

Yes, because no one expected him to chicken out as hard as he did. It also came out that people in his cabinet (specifically Howard Lutnick) were betting against tariffs while simultaneously advocating for them. The legal opinion is heavily leaning towards them being illegal after many lower court decisions. Do you care to explain how tariffs wouldn't be inflationary if the actions matched the rhetoric?

> The US is still the #2 exporting country

Are you being intentionally obtuse? Look at how much we import vs how much we export. What would you call an economy that imports more than it exports? A ___ based economy?

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What's the real reason for the layoffs?

Amazon stock is flat over the past year. The rest of the "magnificent seven": - Google: +70% - Nvidia: +49% - Apple: +7% - Meta: Flat - SHOP (closest comp): +19.41% - Mercado Libre (international comp): +20.73% So basically, the "tech world" is dividing itself, in the eyes of investors, into two camps: companies that will benefit from AI tailwinds and companies that will not. And all the money is going to the compani…

Thanks for an insightful answer!
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