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TikTok settles just before social media addiction trial to begin

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Re: TikTok settles just before social media addiction trial to begin

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Post by alex1138 »

I think too much gets made of addiction in a soft sense and not enough in a hard sense

If I log off Facebook and it starts spamming me with fake notifications, it's addictive in a way that's more than just "Facebook provides a great service! I'm on it all the time! It's so addictive! :)"

If feeds were chronological and they didn't blatantly lie to your face, or you got messages on time (they like not sending it to you by email) it wouldn't be addictive in a lab rat style

(This is Facebook, not TikTok, but still. And yes, I know TT tries to be addictive on purpose)

Re: TikTok settles just before social media addiction trial to begin

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Post by boca_honey »

miltonlost wrote: post #64
noitpmeder wrote: post #5

This case reads like a single individual suing these companies What is to stop other individuals from filing the same suit and expecting similar outcomes?

I hope nothing. Maybe if enough people rightfully sue, then these companies will be forced into going out of business since we can't put the executives away for the crimes.

That sounds like an excellent outcome. Also, I don't think executives should go to jail for something like this. Commercial social media going out of business and their executives paying enourmous fines is the best that could happen for the world IMO, but it is also extremely unlikely.

Re: TikTok settles just before social media addiction trial to begin

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Post by lotsofpulp »

AppleBananaPie wrote: post #51
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #21

I 100% agree with the premise that TikTok is addictive and even dangerous to consume in large amounts (that's why I don't consume it at all). But I feel the exact same about cheeseburgers. Should I be able to sue McDonalds if I let my kid eat 100 of them in one sitting? Again, I get the danger here, and I don't like TikTok as a whole. I just don't really know where the line is between something that the parent is all…

My personal vice is junk food. I wish they banned junk food. I'm not sure how the law would work but it would be objectively better for me as a human if they did. (This is completely disregarding how practical such a ban would be)

A power law formula tax based on sugar/sat fat/total carbs per mass of food/drink should do the trick.

Or give everyone cheap daily GLP-1 pills.

Re: TikTok settles just before social media addiction trial to begin

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Post by GlacierFox »

SunshineTheCat wrote: post #21

I 100% agree with the premise that TikTok is addictive and even dangerous to consume in large amounts (that's why I don't consume it at all). But I feel the exact same about cheeseburgers. Should I be able to sue McDonalds if I let my kid eat 100 of them in one sitting? Again, I get the danger here, and I don't like TikTok as a whole. I just don't really know where the line is between something that the parent is all…

"Again, I get the danger here..."

Haha, wtf. You don't.

Re: TikTok settles just before social media addiction trial to begin

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Post by boelboel »

anonymars wrote: post #43
sethops1 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have... so many questions. Not the least of which is, why? I gave TikTok maybe 10 minutes of my time, once a year just to see what others are seeing. And each time, it was always meaningless junk. I'd uninstall the app after; it does nothing for me. Why did it captivate you?

Not 12-14 hours but the novelty-seeking of new stories and discussion topics is a compelling escape (especially since it'll just be "a few minutes" I think to myself) and then I end up getting drawn into conversations and seeing new thread responses I should respond to, both of which may result in going down additional rabbit holes in order to back up the response... Oh shoot, we were talking about TikTok right?

These short 'dopamine hits' are anywhere. As a kid I really loved reading encyclopedias, even read dictionaries for 'enjoyment'. Wikipedia was awful for me.

Nobody ever saw it as a bad thing though, many people even encouraged me. Looking back at it 90% what I read was absolutely useless besides some novelty and being useful for quizzes.

Wonder what I could've done with all the time I lost, probably changed my behaviour in general. Can't imagine how much tiktok changes these kids.

Re: TikTok settles just before social media addiction trial to begin

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Post by aucisson_masque »

dankwizard wrote: post #75

Not sure why poeple don't just put the phone down? We really are the most sheltered gentle generation. Oh no, this app is taking up my time, we need to BAN IT.

Tell that to a drug user. It works the same way.

And when the app is developed purposely to make people addict, that’s an issue.

You can’t just blame the user when their chance to have a normal app usage have been rigged.

Re: TikTok settles just before social media addiction trial to begin

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Post by nunez »

SunshineTheCat wrote: post #21

I 100% agree with the premise that TikTok is addictive and even dangerous to consume in large amounts (that's why I don't consume it at all). But I feel the exact same about cheeseburgers. Should I be able to sue McDonalds if I let my kid eat 100 of them in one sitting? Again, I get the danger here, and I don't like TikTok as a whole. I just don't really know where the line is between something that the parent is all…

The difference between social media and cheeseburgers here is that I don't NEED to physically go to McDonald's to find out if a business is closed or learn more about their work. (The number of businesses that only post operational updates, specials or samples of their work on Instagram is staggering. Google Maps isn't trustworthy; websites DEFINITELY aren't trustworthy either.)

Re: TikTok settles just before social media addiction trial to begin

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Post by flumpcakes »

dankwizard wrote: post #75

Not sure why poeple don't just put the phone down? We really are the most sheltered gentle generation. Oh no, this app is taking up my time, we need to BAN IT.

That's not how addiction works. If you could "just stop" then it isn't really an addiction.

Re: TikTok settles just before social media addiction trial to begin

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Post by nunez »

dankwizard wrote: post #75

Not sure why poeple don't just put the phone down? We really are the most sheltered gentle generation. Oh no, this app is taking up my time, we need to BAN IT.

Not drinking or gambling works so well for alcoholics and gamblers. Who needs rehab anyway?
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