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Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

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Post by tokyobreakfast »

epistasis wrote: post #278
wyldberry wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a good thing FBI has capacity to do more than one thing at a time. Also Trump agreed to allow MNPD to handle the wrongful death investigation. Two things can be true: the "resistance" rings in MN are behaving like the insurgents the US has fought for decades in the Middle East, and ICE agents wrongfully killed a man.

> the "resistance" rings in MN are behaving like the insurgents the US has fought for decades in the Middle East This is a horrifying and very unpariortic thing to say about people who are trying to prevent their daycares from being tear bombed, prevent masked thugs from beating detained law-abiding citizens before releasing them without charges, from masked thugs killing law-abiding people for exercising basic right…

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Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

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Post by ncallaway »

midasz wrote: post #135
SR2Z wrote: post #100

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Unless they compel people at gunpoint (which prevents the government from bringing a case), they will probably not have much luck with this. As soon as a user sets up a passcode or other lock on their phone, it is beyond the ability of even most parts of the US government to look inside. It's much more likely that the government convinces one member of the group chat to turn on the other members and give up their pho…

> which prevents the government from bringing a case Genuinely, from outside, it seems like your government doesn't give a damn on what they are and aren't allowed to do.

Yes, but I’m not going to unlock my phone with a passcode, and unlike biometric unlock they have no way to force me to unlock my phone.

The district courts will eventually back me up on this. Our country has fallen a long way, but the district courts have remained good, and my case is unlikely to be one that goes up to appellate courts, where things get much worse.

There’s an important distinction: the government doesn’t care about what it is allowed to do, but it is still limited by what it is not capable of doing. It’s important to understand that they still do have many constraints they operate under, and that we need to find and exploit those constraints as much as possible while we fight them

Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

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Post by flumpcakes »

CMay wrote: post #367

It's not illegal to track law enforcement, but if any of their still visible chats show intent it will hurt them. They'll also want to find out how many people in the group chat are outside of the US, if any money was being exchanged, etc. Hopefully they can unwind these groups, because it's just pitting people against law enforcement who have no idea what they're up against. They don't seem to have a sense for when…

An American VA Hospital ICU Nurse was disarmed and executed. Which crime is it OK to be chemically and physically assaulted before being disarmed and shot dead?

Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

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Post by OutOfHere »

gruez wrote: post #334
OutOfHere wrote: post #59

https://www.phreeli.com/ lets people use phones without revealing identity.

Not sure what the point of the service is. Given that it's more expensive than other MVNOs, and isn't even more private. You can still buy prepaid SIMs in store with cash, so it's harder to get more private than that. Not to mention this company asks for your zip+4 code (which identifies down to a specific street), and information for E-911. It's basically like Trump Mobile but for people who care about "privacy".

Clearly there is no point in it for you. The stores would ID you. As for the nine digit zip, I don't think they validate it. Your anti-privacy agenda is crystal clear.

Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

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Post by garciasn »

tokyobreakfast wrote: post #381
epistasis wrote: post #278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the "resistance" rings in MN are behaving like the insurgents the US has fought for decades in the Middle East This is a horrifying and very unpariortic thing to say about people who are trying to prevent their daycares from being tear bombed, prevent masked thugs from beating detained law-abiding citizens before releasing them without charges, from masked thugs killing law-abiding people for exercising basic right…

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https://www.minnpost.com/other-nonprofit-media/2026/01/heres...

From the MinnPost article:

Most child care centers are locked and have obscured doors or windows for children’s safety. Children are also kept in classrooms and would not likely be visible from a reception area. One of the day cares in the video told several news outlets that it did not grant Shirley entrance because he showed up with a handful of masked men, which raised suspicions that the men were agents with Immigration and Customs Enforcement. At least one of the centers was closed at the time Shirley arrived because it opens later in the day to serve the children of second-shift workers.

Is there a history of child care fraud in the state?

Yes, but it’s not as widespread as Shirley claims.

Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

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Post by trinsic2 »

epistasis wrote: post #257
chinathrow wrote: post #212

The FBI should investigate the murders done by ICE and until done with that, remain silent.

And importantly the DoJ attorneys who would be responsible for investigating g the murders resigned because they were prevented from performing the standard procedure investigation that happens after every single shooting. They were instead directed to investigate the family of the person who was shot: https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/nyt-6-federal-prosecutor... We are through the looking glass, folks. This will b…

congress isn't going to do anything. All it would take is about 20 republican sentors to bring this shit to a halt. They are not doing anything, they all have blood on their hands.

At this point I think the only thing that will work is organizing a month where the nation stops spending money and going to work.

Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

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Post by saubeidl »

wyldberry wrote: post #301
epistasis wrote: post #278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the "resistance" rings in MN are behaving like the insurgents the US has fought for decades in the Middle East This is a horrifying and very unpariortic thing to say about people who are trying to prevent their daycares from being tear bombed, prevent masked thugs from beating detained law-abiding citizens before releasing them without charges, from masked thugs killing law-abiding people for exercising basic right…

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They're using IEDs and suicide bombings???

Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

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Post by CMay »

8note wrote: post #379
CMay wrote: post #367

It's not illegal to track law enforcement, but if any of their still visible chats show intent it will hurt them. They'll also want to find out how many people in the group chat are outside of the US, if any money was being exchanged, etc. Hopefully they can unwind these groups, because it's just pitting people against law enforcement who have no idea what they're up against. They don't seem to have a sense for when…

> because it's just pitting people against law enforcement who have no idea what they're up against. i think people know exactly what theyre up against: a lawless executive, many members of which have never had to work in places where they are held accountable to the constitution before. its more important for the government to follow the constitution than for citizens to follow the law. if the government isnt follow…

If you're talking about the Trump administration, they're surrounded by lawyers and constantly battling things up to supreme court decisions, which is not what lawless looks like. ICE is also enforcing existing laws that simply haven't been enforced in recent years. Whatever you think about those laws, they are the laws. Many people agree those laws need to be reformed, but elect people who are willing to change the laws. Unfortunately congress has trouble passing laws around some of these more controversial issues, so it'll probably stay this way for many more decades.

Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

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Post by wahnfrieden »

asdfman123 wrote: post #292
hollandheese wrote: post #249

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The police (FBI and ICE included) are never your friends. They work to protect the rich and powerful and not us.

Software engineers are definitely among the class of people protected by the police

Engineers are just workers
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